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Trump announced he wiil ban bump-stocks by EO.
So much for him being a law and order guy.
So much for him being a law and order guy.
Trump announced he wiil ban bump-stocks by EO.
So much for him being a law and order guy.
I can't conceive how Trump thinks he can change the definition of machine-gun. At noon today said that he was going to sign an EO to outlaw bump-stocks. If he misspoke, I hope that is what he did.
Trump announced he wiil ban bump-stocks by EO.
So much for him being a law and order guy.
He is going down Obama's dark path, completely ignoring congress. This will probably ruin his chances of reelection.
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I am old enough to vividly remember 1968 and Whitman being pinned down in the UT tower by Joe citizen til the LEOs got him.
I really doubt that. If every person that bought one and every person that ever wanted to buy one decided that they would not vote for Trump, who do you think they might vote for?
Hilary? No
Elizabeth Warren? No
Nancy Pelosi? No
Kamala Harris? No
Any other Dem.? No
Now, maybe these people might just not vote and stay home, all 1,528 of them.
The more likely scenario is that by the time the election gets here, bump stocks will be old news that nobody remembers and a dozen new, more serious outrages will have taken our attention. It will be those issues that will decide the election, not this insignificant speed "bump". Bump stocks will not be the cause of the next civil war.
Hilary? No
Elizabeth Warren? No
Nancy Pelosi? No
Kamala Harris? No
Any other Dem.? No
Let's be very clear, gun owners, and the NRA got Trump elected. Gun ownership is very strong in the rust belt states he turned, while I do not expect those dem gun owners to support another anti gun zealot they will stay home.
I will vote for him to keep a anti gun dem out, but I am highly disappointed he has gone this direction. Especially after we know now it was the FBI, and Sheriff's Israel's fault that this guy slipped through the cracks. The gun grabbers balloon sprung a massive leak when the incompetence came out, there is no reason for him to buckle.
Who dropped the ball, letting Trump off the hook, in the Vegas Shooting?
Let's be very clear, gun owners, and the NRA got Trump elected.
Bump stocks were officially recognized as legal by a BATFE ruling under Obama. While not quite an EO, it isn't like bump stocks legality or lack of legality was ever decided by congressional action via legislation, or even a judicial decision.
The BATFE looked at the legal definition of a machine gun and decided (probably correctly) that bump stocks didn't fit the bill. I have no doubt that with enough legal training and experience, any number of black robed lawyers could decide the law actually did intend to include things like bump stocks as banned.
Trump can, legitimately by EO, direct his current BATFE to re-examine the issue. That a different interpretation of law will result in a de facto ban is a foregone conclusion does not actually undermine the legitimacy of that EO.
I don't think the legality of the EO is the issue. I don't think an outright ban of bump stocks has any material effect on our ability to maintain effective self defense or even effective readiness to act as a citizen militia. I think if we can get away with nothing more than a ban on bump stocks, while getting teachers armed (Utah has allowed this for over a decade), and meaningful school security, it may actually be a major PR win for RKBA. If mass shootings don't result in calls for banning guns, but instead result in allowing more non-cops to carry guns into more locations, that is a big enough win it probably results in a change in how, and how often, the media reports on mass shootings.
There is clearly an agenda to ban guns and over-reporting on very rare mass shootings--even as rare terror cases are under-reported or dishonestly mischaracterized as "workplace violence"--is clearly part of pushing that agenda. If reporting on mass shootings results in the feds and States allowing more guns, I think the reporting will change.
That said, I agree with WalkingWolf that the perception among gun owners--not entirely wrong--is one of betrayal and that hurts Trump and the GOP come election time.