sultan62
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Taco Bell, WalMart, CVS. All places I've carried before, no problems.
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NC OC experience reports
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Preble
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Someone call the AG on the whole ABC thing, then ask them about the ABC in Cary.
You are correct and in Dreamers case (where he lives) most of the ABC stores are standalone buildings however most of the ones that I am aware of around Cary are in strip malls (privately owned) and OC on a sidewalk that is not OWNED by the town of Cary is legal. There is whole other matter as to whether or not an ABC store is a State owned building because a County ABC board actually controls and manages ABC store but receives their "supplies" from the State ABC Commision. Don't really know about the ownership but the law in Cary only applies to Town of Cary owned Streets and Sidewalks and in a strict interpretation of the law you could OC on Highway 55 which is State owned even though it is in Cary.
Smith45acp
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LOTS of Raleigh PD with no comments
Riding my motorcycle, pulled up next to a Raleigh PD cruiser at a stop light. I look over after a few seconds and he was looking at me. Kind of stern expression so I winked at him to lighten him up a little. He ran my tags at the next light but no issues.
On the way home there was some kind of major deal at a gas station near my house. At least 8 cruisers with blue lights. I stopped in and got a soda, drank it on my bike with several of Raleigh's finest walking by, surely noticing. No one said anything.
Both of these make me really happy. It looks like most of them "got the memo"! Now if they could just share some of this knowledge with Cary PD
Riding my motorcycle, pulled up next to a Raleigh PD cruiser at a stop light. I look over after a few seconds and he was looking at me. Kind of stern expression so I winked at him to lighten him up a little. He ran my tags at the next light but no issues.
On the way home there was some kind of major deal at a gas station near my house. At least 8 cruisers with blue lights. I stopped in and got a soda, drank it on my bike with several of Raleigh's finest walking by, surely noticing. No one said anything.
Both of these make me really happy. It looks like most of them "got the memo"! Now if they could just share some of this knowledge with Cary PD
sFe
Regular Member
A lot of people were open carrying in Greensboro at the Restore The Constitution event today without issue to my knowledge.
This is PROOF that there is no "grey area" that so many cc permit holders want to argue. I would like to hear some responses from those who are against, afraid, scared, or damn too passive to cary open. Lets not keep them in the closet anymore!!!! Like Bubba said. "its our duty to excersize this God given right"
sultan62
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wethepeople, I'm not sure if this is correct, but I'm going to make the assumption that you mean the fact that we have OCd without problems is proof that OC is legal in NC.
It is very much legal, and without fail the common law "Going Armed to the Terror of the People" is cited against. Many anti-OCers or uneducated people will say that this leaves too much interpretation to the police, and that they can arrest you any time someone makes an MWAG call. This is not true, and there are multiple conditions that must be satisfied in order to arrest on the GAttTotP charge.
It is very much legal, and without fail the common law "Going Armed to the Terror of the People" is cited against. Many anti-OCers or uneducated people will say that this leaves too much interpretation to the police, and that they can arrest you any time someone makes an MWAG call. This is not true, and there are multiple conditions that must be satisfied in order to arrest on the GAttTotP charge.
Yes you are correct. I have talked to several so called pro gun people that are just plain scared to OC, then they tell the same ole "its better people dont know you have it BS" when you know for a fact they are scared. Or "its a grey area" . How many people OC at the rally Sat. that will never in a million years go about OC in everyday lives. I bet a bunch.
sultan62
Regular Member
I respect the people that don't OC because they say it makes them feel uncomfortable or they don't like the way some people treat them or think of them. To be perfectly honest, it bothers me sometimes. It's not to the extent that I would consider not doing it because of them, but it bothers me a little sometimes when people who would otherwise have no problem with me think I'm out for attention, or trying to intimidate, or (insert argument here).
At least the people who say they don't do it because they are uncomfortable are honest. What really bothers me is all the CC people who are so stringently anti-OC.
At least the people who say they don't do it because they are uncomfortable are honest. What really bothers me is all the CC people who are so stringently anti-OC.
Ruger
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After the rally was over, John Ainsworth gave an extended lecture at the Golden Corral on Wendover Avenue. My wife & I attended along with almost 30 others who were at the rally. Sadly, I was the only one who was OC'ing still. Everybody else either left their weapons in their vehicles, or they were CC'ing. I still had my Kimber Tactical Custom II in a Serpa on my left hip and a double mag pouch on my right hip the same as the rest of the day.
Racer X
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I stopped by the Harris Teeter in High Point last night pretty late and ended up having a short convo about OC with my cashier. She was thinking about getting a gun and asked about carry laws. My girlfriend was with me and I think she was a little bummed we haven't gotten an OC holster for her Bersa yet.
Dreamer
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Well, actually is IS true that an "anti" LEO CAN, in fact, arrest you for GAttTotP, or for jaywalking, or for "mopery with intent to creep" if he doesn't like your look or attitude. They CAN arrest you for ANYTHING or nothing at all, and they'll just make something up for the citation...
The COURTS, however, have a very difficult time CONVICTING you of a crime you didn't commit, so most Prosecutors and Magistrates will just dismiss the charges.
The attitude that some of the less scrupulous LEOs have of "I'll arrest you on SOMETHING, and you can let the courts sort it out" should be illegal.
Actually it IS illegal--False arrest, filing a false report, unlawful detainment, kidnapping, assault, etc, etc, etc...
But bad cops all too often "get a pass" when they step over the line.
Luckily for us, smart phones and pocket-sized video cameras are changing that.
The camera is the new "pitchfork and torch". YouTube is the new "tar and feathers". We OWN these technologies--don't be afraid to use them.
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Dreamer
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Download the "NC Gun Rights" flyer and carry a few in your back pocket when you OC. People appreciate something in writing...
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32540634/NC-OC-Flyer
sultan62
Regular Member
My post was poorly worded. Yes, you can be arrested. Though this, too, is unlikely, it is significantly more likely to happen than an actual conviction on such a charge, in which case the chances approach 0.
elixin77
Regular Member
Dreamer, my friend and I stopped at a Golden Coral on our way home.
When my friend and I were getting our first plate of food, a couple elderly women asked if we were cops, to which we said no, and told them how OC was completely legal in our state. Also told them that since the police weren't there to protect them, they needed to protect themselves, to which they were a little shocked about.
One thing that we all need to know though, is that during this conversation, I twisted my body and not only pointed out my pistol, but touched the grip (pointing, not grabbing) to tell them about the gun. Dreamer told me that while the people involved in the conversation knew what I was talking about, someone on the other side of the room (who is not privy to what I am saying/demonstrating), could see that incident as something else. I was in the wrong, and completely forgot about what I did until Dreamer and my friend told me about it.
We need to remember that we should never ever ever touch the gun at all. I messed up and poked it, but someone could easily have interpreted that as me reaching for my sidearm when I was casually just showing off. Learn from my mistake, and don't do it again! haha
Other then that, dinner went well, and the two ladies my friend and I talked to (his first encounter, btw) I believe left learning something about the law (Dreamer got up and talked to them too, and handed them one of his pamphlets).
When my friend and I were getting our first plate of food, a couple elderly women asked if we were cops, to which we said no, and told them how OC was completely legal in our state. Also told them that since the police weren't there to protect them, they needed to protect themselves, to which they were a little shocked about.
One thing that we all need to know though, is that during this conversation, I twisted my body and not only pointed out my pistol, but touched the grip (pointing, not grabbing) to tell them about the gun. Dreamer told me that while the people involved in the conversation knew what I was talking about, someone on the other side of the room (who is not privy to what I am saying/demonstrating), could see that incident as something else. I was in the wrong, and completely forgot about what I did until Dreamer and my friend told me about it.
We need to remember that we should never ever ever touch the gun at all. I messed up and poked it, but someone could easily have interpreted that as me reaching for my sidearm when I was casually just showing off. Learn from my mistake, and don't do it again! haha
Other then that, dinner went well, and the two ladies my friend and I talked to (his first encounter, btw) I believe left learning something about the law (Dreamer got up and talked to them too, and handed them one of his pamphlets).
Racer X
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Preble
Regular Member
I was at Bojangles yesterday, Standing waiting for my food. guy walks up to me and ask if my gun was real. I replied "Yes Sir"
He tucked tail, and RAN out of the store.
The manager looks over at me and says "I bet he is an easy victim."
about 2 minutes the man walks back in, orders a water and sits at the table next to me (keep in mind its me and this guy are the only people in this whole store,) making all these strange sounds and playing really loud stuff from his phone. He also had his eyes locked on me.
after about 10 mins i get really annoyed by him. I could not help it i looked over and i said "Why me? why did you choose to bug me? is it because i have a gun?" (I know i just could not hold it in...But the guy was really being a dick while i was eating on my lunch break)
He keep on doing it, So i went to the manager and told him. He asked the man to leave. The guy just went and sat in his truck....When i left the guy started to follow me, So i Kicked the jeep in 4 wheel and took a little short cut through the woods and in a local mud hole. Needless to say, I guess the guy did not want to be in the woods alone with a guy that has a gun..
BY FAR the oddest encounter i have had.
He tucked tail, and RAN out of the store.
The manager looks over at me and says "I bet he is an easy victim."
about 2 minutes the man walks back in, orders a water and sits at the table next to me (keep in mind its me and this guy are the only people in this whole store,) making all these strange sounds and playing really loud stuff from his phone. He also had his eyes locked on me.
after about 10 mins i get really annoyed by him. I could not help it i looked over and i said "Why me? why did you choose to bug me? is it because i have a gun?" (I know i just could not hold it in...But the guy was really being a dick while i was eating on my lunch break)
He keep on doing it, So i went to the manager and told him. He asked the man to leave. The guy just went and sat in his truck....When i left the guy started to follow me, So i Kicked the jeep in 4 wheel and took a little short cut through the woods and in a local mud hole. Needless to say, I guess the guy did not want to be in the woods alone with a guy that has a gun..
BY FAR the oddest encounter i have had.
sultan62
Regular Member
I understand losing him, I probably would have done the same thing. I certainly wouldn't have driven home or to work, and if you were on your way back to lunch, it was DEFINITELY the right call. It probably was anyway.
However, if time afforded it would have been nice to see what he did if you drove to Walmart. If this happens to me (now that I've thought about it ahead of time b/c of your experience) I'd like to think I would do that. If he pulled in behind me and parked, I would take a picture of his license plate and go into the store.
That way if he did anything (continued harassment, vandalism to your vehicle, etc.) you could have your statement, the manager's statement, and photographic evidence of his vehicle, and therefore his presence.
Still, have to wonder what is wrong with these people. Was his intent to harass you because he knew you were armed? That screams insanity and stupidity.
However, if time afforded it would have been nice to see what he did if you drove to Walmart. If this happens to me (now that I've thought about it ahead of time b/c of your experience) I'd like to think I would do that. If he pulled in behind me and parked, I would take a picture of his license plate and go into the store.
That way if he did anything (continued harassment, vandalism to your vehicle, etc.) you could have your statement, the manager's statement, and photographic evidence of his vehicle, and therefore his presence.
Still, have to wonder what is wrong with these people. Was his intent to harass you because he knew you were armed? That screams insanity and stupidity.
Dreamer
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I was in th elocal Office Depot today getting some printouts made, and the guy ahead of me in line (who was having a HECK of a time getting his business cards printed correctly, it seems) finally noticed my Para (after talking to him about the technical issues involved in trying to get color matches on different print jobs from different printers, using RGB source art).
And he said something I never thought I'd hear with this particular firearm...
I't been mistaken for a Kimber. A Colt. A Sig. And even a Glock (don't ask...)
But this guy says "that's a really fancy-looking gun. Is it a 9?"
A 9?... I actually had to bite my lip to keep from giggling... Apparently there ARE "good old boys" who own racing teams and contracting companies (which this guy did) who aren't into firearms...
"No", I answer, trying not to laugh, "It's a 1911, .45acp. It's based on the old GI-issue .45s like the Army used to carry..." and then I told him about how it was a custom-built piece, and how Wayne Novak built it for me (he also builds 1911's for the FBI's HRT, and has built custom pieces for the SEALS and Delta...)
I was half expecting him to ask if it was a Kimber (must be the pretty rosewood checkered grips), but when he asked if it was a "9", I actually had to look away for a minute to collect myself.
I handed him a NC Gun Rights flyer as he left, though.
I think we BOTH learned something new today...
And he said something I never thought I'd hear with this particular firearm...
I't been mistaken for a Kimber. A Colt. A Sig. And even a Glock (don't ask...)
But this guy says "that's a really fancy-looking gun. Is it a 9?"
A 9?... I actually had to bite my lip to keep from giggling... Apparently there ARE "good old boys" who own racing teams and contracting companies (which this guy did) who aren't into firearms...
"No", I answer, trying not to laugh, "It's a 1911, .45acp. It's based on the old GI-issue .45s like the Army used to carry..." and then I told him about how it was a custom-built piece, and how Wayne Novak built it for me (he also builds 1911's for the FBI's HRT, and has built custom pieces for the SEALS and Delta...)
I was half expecting him to ask if it was a Kimber (must be the pretty rosewood checkered grips), but when he asked if it was a "9", I actually had to look away for a minute to collect myself.
I handed him a NC Gun Rights flyer as he left, though.
I think we BOTH learned something new today...