What is this nonsense? (Bernie Sanders)

[pkbites]

Since he's announced his candidacy for POTUS, I've seen a couple of news article touting him as a pro-gun rights guy.



Say what?

He rates no better than an F from both the NRA and Gun Owners of America.

Can everyone see what the liberal media is doing? They realize that the country leans more toward gun rights than gun control. Can't have that. But gun control isn't much of a winning issue. So they portray a gun grabber as a gun rights hero. And what's incredible is, I bet a good portion of people will fall for it. Jebus Kripes!

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Since he's announced his candidacy for POTUS, I've seen a couple of news article touting him as a pro-gun rights guy.



Say what?

He rates no better than an F from both the NRA and Gun Owners of America.

Can everyone see what the liberal media is doing? They realize that the country leans more toward gun rights than gun control. Can't have that. But gun control isn't much of a winning issue. So they portray a gun grabber as a gun rights hero. And what's incredible is, I bet a good portion of people will fall for it. Jebus Kripes!

1) Gun owners of America is nothing but a permanent employment agency for Pratt who is useful at nothing else in life.

2) the NRA Rating is meaningless without context, the NRA keeps their rating mechanism secret.

3) He voted Against the Brady Bill, and for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, he has never consponsored gun control legislation. voted for guns in parks, and allowing guns on baggage on trains. , the only anti gun vote was the Assault Weapon Ban in the 90s, which many people who were otherwise pro-gun voted for.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

1) Gun owners of America is nothing but a permanent employment agency for Pratt who is useful at nothing else in life.

Thats not necessarily a bad thing. All though I lost respect of him with his anti-muslim rants.

2) the NRA Rating is meaningless without context, the NRA keeps their rating mechanism secret.

They also tend to endorse incumbents over more progun challengers.

3) He voted Against the Brady Bill, and for the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act, he has never consponsored gun control legislation. voted for guns in parks, and allowing guns on baggage on trains. , the only anti gun vote was the Assault Weapon Ban in the 90s, which many people who were otherwise pro-gun voted for.[/QUOTE]

Didn't know this thanks. People forget Bush wanted to vote for that ban and limited magazine capacity etc.

 

[OC for ME]

Big whoop, he kinda-sorta likes individual liberty where guns are concerned...well maybe not, he voted for the Brady Bill after Newtown.

After the massacre at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., in 2012, Sanders reversed his position on the Brady Bill the next year and voted to expand background checks.

Nope, he is no friend of liberty, a self avowed socialist is no different than a closet socialist...all liberals that is.

So, Bernie returns to his political roots, the liberal agenda must be perpetuated and expanded...liberalism is the only thing that matters. Liberals are liberals first and foremost, all other considerations are secondary.

 

[Thundar]

Big whoop, he kinda-sorta likes individual liberty where guns are concerned...well maybe not, he voted for the Brady Bill after Newtown.Nope, he is no friend of liberty, a self avowed socialist is no different than a closet socialist...all liberals that is.

So, Bernie returns to his political roots, the liberal agenda must be perpetuated and expanded...liberalism is the only thing that matters. Liberals are liberals first and foremost, all other considerations are secondary.

OC for me,

You do indeed paint with a very broad brush.

Bernie is certainly not a classic liberal. I am originally from New England and being a libertarian disagre with him on many issues, but he is fairly solid in the limiting government infringement of individual rights department, including the Patriot Act and all of the other NeoCon tyranny in the name of security crapp. He is however, exceedingly bad on the economic rights department. Not a traditional socialist.

He is a very good friend of gun rights most of the time.

I am a libertarian and could never vote for or support a champion of wealth redistribution, but as far as gun rights go he is usually more solid than the Republican Caucus.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Thats not necessarily a bad thing. All though I lost respect of him with his anti-muslim rants.



They also tend to endorse incumbents over more progun challengers.



Didn't know this thanks. People forget Bush wanted to vote for that ban and limited magazine capacity etc.

Pratt irritates me, like people hated it when Piers Morgan called him a "stupid man" on his CNN show, but that's the one thing PM said I agreed with.

The anti Moslem stuff irritates me too. People are so paranoid over that it's sickening really.

A year ago now I was still driving over the road, and I was at a warehouse in Sacramento and I was checking in, there was these punjabi drivers there, and I was talking with one of them and he went out to his truck and the warehouse reciever once he was gone referred to him as "al Qaeda" and I flipped my **** at that guy, but you know not only was he using this anti Moslem attitude, he used it against a Sihk punjabi not even knowing the difference.

Even if he was an Arab Moslem I would've let him know that wasn't ok. I'm not the hugest fan of the Moslem religion, but I don't like religion in general anymore, I certainly don't hold it against individual Moslems

 

[OC for ME]

OC for me,

You do indeed paint with a very broad brush.

Bernie is certainly not a classic liberal. I am originally from New England and being a libertarian disagre with him on many issues, but he is fairly solid in the limiting government infringement of individual rights department, including the Patriot Act and all of the other NeoCon tyranny in the name of security crapp. He is however, exceedingly bad on the economic rights department. Not a traditional socialist.

He is a very good friend of gun rights most of the time.

I am a libertarian and could never vote for or support a champion of wealth redistribution, but as far as gun rights go he is usually more solid than the Republican Caucus.

Taking my money while allowing me to keep my gun...hmm, yes, he has not taken my gun.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Pratt irritates me, like people hated it when Piers Morgan called him a "stupid man" on his CNN show, but that's the one thing PM said I agreed with.

The anti Moslem stuff irritates me too. People are so paranoid over that it's sickening really.

A year ago now I was still driving over the road, and I was at a warehouse in Sacramento and I was checking in, there was these punjabi drivers there, and I was talking with one of them and he went out to his truck and the warehouse reciever once he was gone referred to him as "al Qaeda" and I flipped my **** at that guy, but you know not only was he using this anti Moslem attitude, he used it against a Sihk punjabi not even knowing the difference.

Even if he was an Arab Moslem I would've let him know that wasn't ok. I'm not the hugest fan of the Moslem religion, but I don't like religion in general anymore, I certainly don't hold it against individual Moslems

Well said.

 

[Thundar]

Taking my money while allowing me to keep my gun...hmm, yes, he has not taken my gun.

Ding, ding , ding, exactly. Condemn him for his sins, not the sins of the majority of liberals and socialists.

 

[pkbites]

Sorry, but some of you need to get your heads out of your nether regions regarding Bernie Sanders. He is in no way pro-gun rights, and the way the media is trying to make him look like he is is nothing more than propaganda reminiscent of the "Big Lie". Don't be fooled.

 

[nobama]

Sorry, but some of you need to get your heads out of your nether regions regarding Bernie Sanders. He is in no way pro-gun rights, and the way the media is trying to make him look like he is is nothing more than propaganda reminiscent of the "Big Lie". Don't be fooled.

Well said!! Not one socialist, commiecrat gives a hoot about our Constitution, thats why they are call progressive liberals, this goes for the "establishment" Republicans also. Ted Cruz for me.

 

[beebobby]

Well said!! Not one socialist, commiecrat gives a hoot about our Constitution, thats why they are call progressive liberals, this goes for the "establishment" Republicans also. Ted Cruz for me.

The birthers are never gonna let Cruz on the ballot without seeming to be hypocritical.

 

[nobama]

The birthers are never gonna let Cruz on the ballot without seeming to be hypocritical.

There is a big difference between the two. obama HATES this country, our Constitution, our way of life and everything that stands for Liberty. Ted Cruz Loves this country, our Constitution (knows it like the back of his hand) our way of life and everything that stands for Liberty. This is not my opinion, this is a fact. I will support anybody who fully understands and supports our Constitution regardless of their birth, or color.

 

[acmariner99]

I can't pin Sanders down on gun rights. Some say that he is fairly moderate, some say he wants to take away ALL self-defense firearms, others say he would stick with the status quo. I will say that at least Sanders doesn't shy away from who he really is - unlike most Rs and Ds alike. I also happen to agree with SOME of his platform ... getting big money out of swaying elections, given a choice - I'd rather spend tax dollars on domestic infrastructure, education, and health care rather than constantly supporting foreign wars. Sanders is correct that a small percentage of the population with the majority of the wealth gets to dictate policy and the gap between them and the middle class and poor continues to widen, I disagree with his methods in correcting that discrepancy (lots of heavy taxes on the super rich, redistribution of wealth, and minimum wage increases; he also seems to lake the comprehension that nothing is free and actions have consequences).

Is there ANYONE running for President worth voting for?

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Is there ANYONE running for President worth voting for?

Nope. Looks like I'll sit this one out .......again.

 

[GHF]

Bernie's Gun Weirdness

Bernie did espouse the concept that there should be different rules in rural and urban (undefined) about guns. Have not heard anything about it since. No details.

As to guns, he is the best of the Clinton/O'Malloy/Chafee/Sanders crowd. Hillary thinks there are to many guns out there, O'Malloy wants "common sense" meaning Maryland's People's Republic laws, and Chaffee is a lost dreamer.

Nobody is talking mental health for the crazies, and real criminals and terrorists are being avoided.

 

[DrakeZ07]

in 2008, my first presidential election, I voted for Obama, and straight democrat. in 2012, I voted for the Libertarian POTUS candidate, and voted independant, and libertarian, and even a pirate party candidate on the other tickets. 2016, I'll probably vote for Sanders. Anyone who wants to heavily tax the super-wealthy, and actually talks openly about giving poor people the same standard of living that is found in most of the western, and first-world nations, is someone that automatically gets my vote.

Better a New England Independant, than a conserva-fascist Republican, or a rambling baffon from the Dem. Bloc.

 

[BigStack]

Bernie says he is pro gun rights... yet what he really means is he is pro hunting gun rights..... he doesn't believe people should have any gun that it's primary purpose is not hunting.
No ar15. No handguns. No "large capacity mags" ....no "military" looking guns. So you see he is no different than any other liberal candidate. He has just had to lie or at least stretch and spin the truth and say he is pro gun in order to maintain his job in Vermont.

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[BigStack]

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[nobama]

in 2008, my first presidential election, I voted for Obama, and straight democrat. in 2012, I voted for the Libertarian POTUS candidate, and voted independant, and libertarian, and even a pirate party candidate on the other tickets. 2016, I'll probably vote for Sanders. Anyone who wants to heavily tax the super-wealthy, and actually talks openly about giving poor people the same standard of living that is found in most of the western, and first-world nations, is someone that automatically gets my vote.

Better a New England Independant, than a conserva-fascist Republican, or a rambling baffon from the Dem. Bloc.

Hate to burst your bubble, but if they taxed the rich more, yours (maybe) and my income will NOT go up, it will only cost us more to buy things we need which in turn will make us have even less money. How does a $10 burger sound? Wake up. Those evil rich. Why even obama supports wealth distribution when he holds, lets see, how much money was it to eat at his fund raiser? was it 300 dollars a plate? more? what was it?