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What about people who identify as black?

solus

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eye95, why are you using that incititful term?

Private property, private party! End of discussion!

Mommy's against everything have their meetings in private and only for select citizens ~ those not OC/CC’g.
 

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eye95, why are you using that incititful term?

Private property, private party! End of discussion!

Mommy's against everything have their meetings in private and only for select citizens ~ those not OC/CC’g.

In all due respect Solus, eye95 might have a point. If this church is 501(c)(3) then they are in violations.
This is no difference when "White Only" was posted above water fountain and restrooms.

What about Emimen or Vanilla Ice, can they enter?



To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.

The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction.

Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct. For a detailed discussion, see Political and Lobbying Activities. For more information about lobbying activities by charities, see the article Lobbying Issues; for more information about political activities of charities, see the FY-2002 CPE topic Election Year Issues.
 
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Actually, that is not my point at all. It amazed* me that the second poster took it that way.

My point is solely this: Racism is wrong. Even when it is lawful, it is wrong.

I just took the opportunity to highlight the stupidity of leftism by asking the question about people who identify as black. As usual, the first reply was designed (poorly so) to deflect. Please notice, I did not bother to dignify that post with a reply.

You, on the other hand, post well enough to warrant respectful replies.
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*not really.
 

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Thank you FreedomVA, i am sure all that tax nonsense is necessary to function as the Bolton Street Baptist Church ~ to qualify as a religious tax exempt entity, however - whomever is the official sponsor of said gathering is not beholding to said tax nonsense - period.

Private property, private party - they be the rule facilitators during their gathering.

As for Eminem, et el., attending it is strictly BS nonsense and you know it.
 

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What about reporters who identify as black? Would they have been allowed in?


What a bunch of racists!

Actually, that is not my point at all. It amazed* me that the second poster took it that way.

My point is solely this: Racism is wrong. Even when it is lawful, it is wrong.

I just took the opportunity to highlight the stupidity of leftism by asking the question about people who identify as black. As usual, the first reply was designed (poorly so) to deflect. Please notice, I did not bother to dignify that post with a reply.

You, on the other hand, post well enough to warrant respectful replies.
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*not really.

Sorry mate, that is in fact a sentence from you initial post of your quote underlined, italicized, and bolded of the word RACIST?

Further, if that wasn’t your point then your message wasn’t articulated properly, therefore you had no communication.

Do like your oxymoron comment, “racism is wrong. Even when it is lawful.” Really!

Similarly, you state you were, ‘...highlight the stupidity of leftism... about people who identify as black.’ So this nation’s citizens of color are considered stupid leftists?

Eye95, again a concern about your well being since your contribution to this entire thread seems disjointed and incoherent with a complete lack of continuity of thought regarding as you stated, “that’s not my point at all” about what it is you actually mean?
 

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In all due respect Solus, eye95 might have a point. If this church is 501(c)(3) then they are in violations.
This is no difference when "White Only" was posted above water fountain and restrooms.

What about Emimen or Vanilla Ice, can they enter?



To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

Organizations described in section 501(c)(3) are commonly referred to as charitable organizations. Organizations described in section 501(c)(3), other than testing for public safety organizations, are eligible to receive tax-deductible contributions in accordance with Code section 170.

The organization must not be organized or operated for the benefit of private interests, and no part of a section 501(c)(3) organization's net earnings may inure to the benefit of any private shareholder or individual. If the organization engages in an excess benefit transaction with a person having substantial influence over the organization, an excise tax may be imposed on the person and any organization managers agreeing to the transaction.

Section 501(c)(3) organizations are restricted in how much political and legislative (lobbying) activities they may conduct. For a detailed discussion, see Political and Lobbying Activities. For more information about lobbying activities by charities, see the article Lobbying Issues; for more information about political activities of charities, see the FY-2002 CPE topic Election Year Issues.

Having founded a still operating 501C3 charity in 2008 I can tell you that a 501c3 can hold its meetings in private or public.
It can refuse to accept any individual it wishes as a member , or put restrictions on being eligible for membership.

It does , upon request have to provide its financial records to the requesting party . it can charge a reasonable fee for doing so.

It also cannot operate out side of the mission statement it put forth on its application to gain 501c3 status.

As far as their meeting , they can close that meeting to anyone they wish.
 

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PS...excellent entertainer and have and constantly list to his music while doing chores and on road trips.
 

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Having founded a still operating 501C3 charity in 2008 I can tell you that a 501c3 can hold its meetings in private or public.
It can refuse to accept any individual it wishes as a member , or put restrictions on being eligible for membership.

It does , upon request have to provide its financial records to the requesting party . it can charge a reasonable fee for doing so.

It also cannot operate out side of the mission statement it put forth on its application to gain 501c3 status.

As far as their meeting , they can close that meeting to anyone they wish.

thanks, noted....(Laws don't mean jack) and i'm in the wrong business, need to get me sum 501(c)
 

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thanks, noted....(Laws don't mean jack) and i'm in the wrong business, need to get me sum 501(c)
501c3 regulations mean everything if your running one.

I don't know if the meeting under discussion was by a 501c3 org.
Not all church's are 501c3 either.

But just because an org has 501c3 status doesn't make it a public organization and all of its meetings can be private, public , or something in between.
 

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thanks, noted....(Laws don't mean jack) and i'm in the wrong business, need to get me sum 501(c)

Actually the 501C3 My wife and I founded is all bikers, all volunteer membership and officers. Its mission statement is to help seriously ill and disabled children

No board member , president, officer or member ever gets paid a cent .
Didn't when it was founded and still doesn't. Never will.
 

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501c3 regulations mean everything if your running one.

I don't know if the meeting under discussion was by a 501c3 org.
Not all church's are 501c3 either.

But just because an org has 501c3 status doesn't make it a public organization and all of its meetings can be private, public , or something in between.
A little off topic. The law does NOT require any church to apply for 501(c)(3) status. But, when they do they take on a lot of baggage.
 
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Exclusion-ism is not racism...fix this first and claims of racism will fall on deaf ears.


Unfortunately many folks are afeared of lookin up the word racism cuz it will pop their tiny bubble that is their universe...except liberals, facts don't matter much.
 

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Often a case of mistaken identity.

I myself identify as a tough guy acting like a robot, who in turn has claimed to be a cybernetic organism, which is questionable because the skin is superficial as mission camouflage and he can function completely without it. Sad.....

Identity confusion (treating imagination as legally real) will lead to strange things if continued. What about someone identifying as Native American (besides Warren) and using it for tribal government laws? Or a group lawsuit of whites and any others identifying as black and seeking reparations? Or me identifying as you and using your credit card? Or a human identifying as a protected animal species and utilizing those protections?

(Oh crap, I shouldn't be giving them any ideas!) o_O
 

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The definition disagrees with how most people would use the word racism. Most would agree that it is racism if someone believes that race is one of possibly several determinants of traits and capacities—and then acts negatively or positively toward members of a race because of an unreasonable assumption that the the traits or capacities are common to all or almost all members of the race.
 

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The definition disagrees with how most people would use the word racism. Most would agree that it is racism if someone believes that race is one of possibly several determinants of traits and capacities—and then acts negatively or positively toward members of a race because of an unreasonable assumption that the the traits or capacities are common to all or almost all members of the race.

Er, uh, eye95 what definition are you referring to?

Excuse me, who are the “MOST WOULD” you are referring to that “AGREE”....

Darn, eye95 i am extremely confused of your post since you failed to communicate any type of example(s) of what you consider are negatively or positively “ACTS” towards members ?

Could you provide your perceptions of “unreasonable assumption” or what common stereotypical “traits or capacities” of whichever ethnicity you are maliciously attempting to malign ~ Black/Latino/Asian? Religious peoples? country of origin peoples, so eye95 just who are you trying to malign?

Again, mate, after reading your disjointed tirade are you alright because you have once again uncharacteristicly posted yet another incoherent, ambiguously vague, rambling post which didn't say a bloody thing!

PS: As pointed out numerous times on this platform, Merriam’s definition of ”RACE”.

Oh wait mate, perhaps, as you normally do, you misspoke and meant some other concept, like ethnicity ?
 
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