Never get it. It involves both a criminal investigation and a personnel matter.
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Trigger happy police officer fires shots near student dorms
- Thread starter riverrat10k
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Never get it. It involves both a criminal investigation and a personnel matter.
sidestreet
Regular Member
A lot of stuff I'd like to know about this...,
and were still getting pieces of the puzzle. I'm not able to get all of the different reports (crappy equipment and limited time), but what's all this about the SUV the suspect was "initially"(?) in being reported as stolen by OnStar? I think we all agree that we still don't have a great idea of what actually went on yet, and have to work with what we've got. Also as usual, Peter seems be everywhere and have inside info on many things (I'm beginning to believe Santa Clause sub-contracts with him when he starts his research for making out his 'Naughty and Nice" list!), so that helps too.
I'd like to know how this situation progressed to what seems to have been a rather casual encounter IF (and that's a big IF) the Officer knew that the vehicle was reported as stolen. I'm not going to be too quick to criticize any officer approaching a vehicle reported stolen, at 4 o'clock in the morning most anywhere, for at least unsnapping and acquiring his grip. Do we know that the UR Officer had all that info?
Well, there's way more questions than I have time to type, and I gotta go to bed, but I'd like to carry on this convo Saturday morning at RCD, and I'd love to see you all there. We should have more "facts" by then.
While I personally would have held off of the "Trigger Happy", riverrat has his own reasons for putting that there, and from what I've seen so far, it's "talking" like a duck, but then again..., I've got an old duck call in my junk drawer
. I guess we'll wait and see if it ends up walking like a duck too!
Here's hoping and praying that "speed41e" had a good day today and heals quickly. "Speedy" recovery "speed"!!!
sidestreet
Jeremiah 29 vs. 11-13
we are not equal, we will never be equal, but we must be relentless.
and were still getting pieces of the puzzle. I'm not able to get all of the different reports (crappy equipment and limited time), but what's all this about the SUV the suspect was "initially"(?) in being reported as stolen by OnStar? I think we all agree that we still don't have a great idea of what actually went on yet, and have to work with what we've got. Also as usual, Peter seems be everywhere and have inside info on many things (I'm beginning to believe Santa Clause sub-contracts with him when he starts his research for making out his 'Naughty and Nice" list!), so that helps too.
I'd like to know how this situation progressed to what seems to have been a rather casual encounter IF (and that's a big IF) the Officer knew that the vehicle was reported as stolen. I'm not going to be too quick to criticize any officer approaching a vehicle reported stolen, at 4 o'clock in the morning most anywhere, for at least unsnapping and acquiring his grip. Do we know that the UR Officer had all that info?
Well, there's way more questions than I have time to type, and I gotta go to bed, but I'd like to carry on this convo Saturday morning at RCD, and I'd love to see you all there. We should have more "facts" by then.
While I personally would have held off of the "Trigger Happy", riverrat has his own reasons for putting that there, and from what I've seen so far, it's "talking" like a duck, but then again..., I've got an old duck call in my junk drawer
. I guess we'll wait and see if it ends up walking like a duck too! Here's hoping and praying that "speed41e" had a good day today and heals quickly. "Speedy" recovery "speed"!!!
sidestreet
Jeremiah 29 vs. 11-13
we are not equal, we will never be equal, but we must be relentless.
T Dubya
Campaign Veteran
Anyone else find it ironic this happened the day after the campus police informing local police thing at the legislature?
Cop was dead wrong. All over marijuana. What a joke from the very get go.
Hey Officer Rod Farva nice police work pal. Now go fetch a liter of cola and man the radio. You're off the street.
Cop was dead wrong. All over marijuana. What a joke from the very get go.
Hey Officer Rod Farva nice police work pal. Now go fetch a liter of cola and man the radio. You're off the street.
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user
Accomplished Advocate
Shooting at someone who is not actually engaged in the commission of a "serious felony" (rape, robbery, murder, arson, burglary) is illegal. Doesn't matter who's doing the shooting or the status of the person being shot at. Even pulling a gun on someone who does not pose a threat is a violation of his right to due process and is good for a civil action against the cop for assault.
wylde007
Regular Member
user
Accomplished Advocate
Are you taking the case, then, Dan?
I'd love to! Only problem is that it's too much time, trouble, and money for most people to pursue these kinds of things. I've wondered why police and sheriff's organizations don't weed out the people who are emotionally unsuited to law enforcement themselves. Then it occurred to me, that such people are useful - when they want something crazy to happen, they send in the crazy guy, then they can say it wasn't their fault the guy was crazy, and the insurance company will take care of it. Plausible deniability.
wylde007
Regular Member
Do you REALLY want my answer to that?
KBCraig
Regular Member
Not yet. The police version has been "flexible" so far, so there's probably still some give left.
From the article:
Other than police firing wildly in a crowded dorm area, without apparent legal justification, you mean?
Doing a lot of ASSUMING :uhoh:....Assuming the Officer is charged with a misdemeanor in this, will he also be charged with a felony under:
§ 18.2-287.2. Wearing of body armor while committing a crime; penalty.
Any person who, while committing a crime of violence as defined in § 18.2-288 (2) or a felony violation of § 18.2-248 or subdivision (a) 2 or 3 of § 18.2-248.1, has in his possession a firearm or knife and is wearing body armor designed to diminish the effect of the impact of a bullet or projectile shall be guilty of a Class 4 felony.
OR
will it be swept under the rug in the guise of Officer Safety?
§ 18.2-287.2. Wearing of body armor while committing a crime; penalty.
Any person who, while committing a crime of violence as defined in § 18.2-288 (2) or a felony violation of § 18.2-248 or subdivision (a) 2 or 3 of § 18.2-248.1, has in his possession a firearm or knife and is wearing body armor designed to diminish the effect of the impact of a bullet or projectile shall be guilty of a Class 4 felony.
OR
will it be swept under the rug in the guise of Officer Safety?
wylde007
Regular Member
He will get a stern talking to, with a post-it note placed in his personnel record.