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They don't know how the gun went off?

HardChrome

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I wasn't there but I have a guess. Maybe someone pulled the TRIGGER! I hate to read such idiotic ignorance. Here we go again. Bad gun.

From http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/africa/04/13/somalia.rescue.breakdown/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

POSTED: Monday, April 13, 2009UPDATED: 5:52 pm CDT April 13, 2009MEDINA COUNTY, Texas -- [/b]The parents of a 3-year-old boy who was shot and killed Sunday may face charges in connection with his death, said Medina County Sheriff Randy Brown.Xavier Ortiz was in a room inside a mobile home with other children when he was shot with a Glock .40 handgun about 3:30 p.m., near the Valley View subdivision south of Castroville, Texas, Brown said. Xavier was rushed to a hospital in Hondo, where he was pronounced dead at 4:11 p.m."I mean, what do you do at this point, to these people," Brown said. "You can't do nothing to them. Do i believe they need to be held accountable? Yeah."Xavier was inside the home with four or five other children waiting for adults to hide Easter candy, the sheriff said, when those outside heard the gunfire from inside the home. The parents, Javier and Aguero Ortiz, both in their 20s, could face improper gun storage charges, Brown said."A senseless crime, these things can be avoided and we hear about them too often," Brown said.Sheriff's investigators, along with child advocates, are interviewing the other children in the room at the time of the shooting to find out the circumstances of the shooting. Funeral arrangements for the boy are currently pending.

Update, 4:06 p.m.
: After conducting interviews with the children in the room, Brown said Xavier jumped on the bed, exposing the gun that was underneath a pillow. It is unknown how the gun went off, but Brown said Xavier was holding the gun when he was shot.
 

Pagan

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Sounds like the kid pulled the trigger with his thumb while pointing the gun at himself, SOP for small kids trying to pull a trigger that the index finger can't reach or is to weak to pull the trigger. The parentsare completely at fault for leaving the weapon available to untrained persons, and the loss of the child is probably the greatest punsihment they can recieve.
 

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Task Force 16 wrote:
Bad gun? Nah

Stupid parents? ABSOLUTELY!

:banghead::banghead::banghead:

DING DING DING DING DING! We have a winner!!!

For correctly answering the question to such a common problem you get the right to play again on the next game! :p
 

Dustin

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If you look in the link you posted it says: somolia.breakdown.

It's the wrong link.

Anyway, the guy is right. What more can you reallydo to these parents ? I think they should go to jail obviously, but that won't make a difference to them.
 

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Francis Marion wrote:
"Stupid parents" for not teaching their children how to safely handle firearms and demystifying them.

Umm...normally I'd agree. In this case, the kid was 3.
 

Dahwg

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Which is why my gun never leaves my hip. Wifie on the other hand...

Let's just say I have some work to do on spousal education. Luckily she'sdoesn't feel comfortable enough to have hers in condition one yet. We're getting there.
 

planedr

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Rob_B wrote:
Francis Marion wrote:
"Stupid parents" for not teaching their children how to safely handle firearms and demystifying them.

Umm...normally I'd agree. In this case, the kid was 3.

Parents need jail time. I started on my kid when he was 3. But every kid is different. He's 10 now and owns his own gun.

He watched that 20/20 show with me and was just as mad as I was, he knew what to do.Some times I think we do need some kind of IQ test to be able to own guns to keep idiots like this from giving us a bad name.
 

PT111

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planedr wrote:
Rob_B wrote:
Francis Marion wrote:
"Stupid parents" for not teaching their children how to safely handle firearms and demystifying them.

Umm...normally I'd agree. In this case, the kid was 3.

Parents need jail time. I started on my kid when he was 3. But every kid is different. He's 10 now and owns his own gun.

He watched that 20/20 show with me and was just as mad as I was, he knew what to do.Some times I think we do need some kind of IQ test to be able to own guns to keep idiots like this from giving us a bad name.
The Brady Bunchjust loves that comment. Does 2A not include stupid people? Are you in favor of a test to own a firearm? I know your frustration but we have to take the bad with the good..
 

MetalChris

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HardChrome wrote:
The parents, Javier and Aguero Ortiz, both in their 20s, could face improper gun storage charges...
I wasn't aware of any storage laws in TX...could someone please enlighten me?
 
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