eye95
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We check the bejeebers out of 4473s. The selling associate checks the forms and signs it. A supervisory or managerial associate checks the form and signs it. Only then will we sell the firearm. It is checked again that night by a manager. It is checked the next day by the supervisor/manager taking the firearm out of the bound book. It is checked 2-3 more times by LP and managers.
I was checking a day’s forms to take them out of the bound book, when I noticed two forms with errors in customer entries. In such cases we sometimes have to ask the customer to come back and fix the entry. The two forms listed the same address for the purchaser. That’s not unusual. Roommates often come in together to buy firearms.
So I called the first individual. No answer. I left a message.
Then I called the second buyer. He answered. I explained the error, and he agreed to come in and fix it. I then asked him if his roommate were available. He stated he did not have a roommate. I asked, “You don’t have a roommate with a first name of __?” Nope. He lived alone. Uh oh.
In a later conversation with the first individual, we discussed the original error that prompted the call. Then I asked him to verify is current address. It became obvious that he did not live at the address he listed on the form. It turns out that he had not updated his driver’s license, and had previously lived at the address he listed on the form. He knew we would not have sold him the firearm had he not been able to produce acceptable identification with his current address, so he lied.
We could lose our FFL if we knew someone lied on the form 4473 and did not notify the ATF, so we notified them. I have no idea what the outcome was.
What are the odds that two people, one who currently lives at an address and one who formerly lived at that same address, would go to the same FFL on the same day to purchase firearms? Were it not for this coincidence no one would have ever noticed that the former resident had lied on the 4473.
I was checking a day’s forms to take them out of the bound book, when I noticed two forms with errors in customer entries. In such cases we sometimes have to ask the customer to come back and fix the entry. The two forms listed the same address for the purchaser. That’s not unusual. Roommates often come in together to buy firearms.
So I called the first individual. No answer. I left a message.
Then I called the second buyer. He answered. I explained the error, and he agreed to come in and fix it. I then asked him if his roommate were available. He stated he did not have a roommate. I asked, “You don’t have a roommate with a first name of __?” Nope. He lived alone. Uh oh.
In a later conversation with the first individual, we discussed the original error that prompted the call. Then I asked him to verify is current address. It became obvious that he did not live at the address he listed on the form. It turns out that he had not updated his driver’s license, and had previously lived at the address he listed on the form. He knew we would not have sold him the firearm had he not been able to produce acceptable identification with his current address, so he lied.
We could lose our FFL if we knew someone lied on the form 4473 and did not notify the ATF, so we notified them. I have no idea what the outcome was.
What are the odds that two people, one who currently lives at an address and one who formerly lived at that same address, would go to the same FFL on the same day to purchase firearms? Were it not for this coincidence no one would have ever noticed that the former resident had lied on the 4473.
