The FLag as a political too1 - JUST WRONG!

[Dave_pro2a]

And return to your sanctimonious judgments of who you think is worthy to be called a Christian.

Wow, Mister Judgey. Insulting someone by calling them 'sanctimonious.'

And you wonder why no one likes you.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

Hahahaha I called noones personal standing in front of a mythical being to question.

I simply pointed out the unchristlike behavior.

 

[Freedom1Man]

And return to your sanctimonious judgments of who you think is worthy to be called a Christian. Christ, Himself, made pretty clear that He alone would determine who His followers were.

A person or church who professes Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah, the Son of God and who attempts--however imperfectly--to follow His teachers as best he understands them, is a Christian. Whatever doctrinal differences he may have with you, me, or anyone else, it is not your place nor mine to declare such a person something other than what he claims to be. What utter arrogance to proclaim otherwise.

The reason that the book of Genesis goes into the blood lines in such detail is because Christians are a race not truly a religion. Jesus, a well educated man of myth, really did not say anything that Plato did not say first. When he was talking about his people lost in other countries, he was speaking of their lost/forgotten heritage. I do find it interesting that Philo, born before the mythical Jesus and lived long after the alleged death of Jesus, was running around with Peter one of the alleged followers of Jesus, never once mentions Jesus in his writings.

So, go bend history to someone else.

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[solus]

And return to your sanctimonious judgments of who you think is worthy to be called a Christian. Christ, Himself, made pretty clear that He alone would determine who His followers were.

A person or church who professes Jesus of Nazareth as the Messiah, the Son of God and who attempts--however imperfectly--to follow His teachers as best he understands them, is a Christian. Whatever doctrinal differences he may have with you, me, or anyone else, it is not your place nor mine to declare such a person something other than what he claims to be. What utter arrogance to proclaim otherwise.

and yet mate, through your written word continue to display your utter arrogance towards others of different faiths. truly astonishing...

LDS Church News Week ending June 20, 1998, p. 7 quote: "In bearing testimony of Jesus Christ, President Hinckley spoke of those outside the Church who say Latter-day Saints 'do not believe in the traditional Christ.' 'No, I don't. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. unquote.

now that is truly awkward isn't it!

ipse

PS: matey, does that qualify for the 'fourth option' you were looking for?

 

[marshaul]

I've never understood why mature, self-sufficient adults would choose to live someplace they didn't like, being unhappy and complaining, rather than relocating to somewhere that better suited them.

Right. Even though I hate the lawn care company in this neighborhood, surely there must be tons of good ones elsewhere. It's entirely unpossible that I might want to take care of my own lawn in the neighborhood I've always called home.

 

[Citizen]

SNIP What utter arrogance to proclaim otherwise.

He wasn't always so put-off by arrogance. When I, in an earlier thread, pointed out the arrogance of thinking oneself more equal than others and thereby having justification to rule them without their consent, his reply included:

SNIP So, if the critics of our current government will not deign to provide me with some solid examples of what they would do instead, I guess I shall continue to wallow in my current state of ignorance, stupidity, and perhaps even arrogance...

Charles

emphasis added by Citizen

Someone slights his philosophy, and its a huge issue with him. Yet, its only "perhaps even arrogance" for him to willingly contribute to imposing actual threats of force on literally hundreds of millions of people. Factual, real coercion and force.

 

[Citizen]

Right. Even though I hate the lawn care company in this neighborhood, surely there must be tons of good ones elsewhere. It's entirely unpossible that I might want to take care of my own lawn in the neighborhood I've always called home.

Thaz right, bucko! If you don't like it, you can leave. Don't you get it? We own the joint, and since we gots all the force, what we say goes. We don't need no stinkin' rational basis--whether it stands up to scrutiny or not--because we gots the force. Its up to you to leave; not us to leave you alone, no matter how peaceful you are. /sarcasm

 

[Citizen]

There is no fence keeping anyone here.

I've never understood why mature, self-sufficient adults would choose to live someplace they didn't like, being unhappy and complaining, rather than relocating to somewhere that better suited them.

False premise, hidden premise: The windbags and busy-bodies of this piece of North America can just as easily leave someone alone while he resides here as after he flees them to somewhere else.

The comments in the quote balloon can be translated to read: We have every right to harass you with regulations, and steal your produce; and if you don't like it you can leave. See? We're very reasonable because we won't prevent you from leaving (but we will make sure you pay the taxes we say you owe us. And, we'll continue to make sure you pay the taxes we say you owe us until you renounce your citizenship because...we define who or what an American is. Not you. Even if you were born here, just like us.) /sarcasm

 

[Dave_pro2a]

I recognize that the man who said "Turn the other cheek" also used significant physical violence not once, but twice to run peaceful merchants out of the Temple in Jerusalem.

What's the penalty for calling Jesus a hypocrite?

 

[Dave_pro2a]

There is no fence keeping anyone here.

https://pando.com/2015/01/07/americ...over-in-denying-us-born-bitcoin-jesus-a-visa/

Known as “Bitcoin Jesus,” Roger Ver is kind of a big deal in crypto-currency circles. And yet, after renouncing his US citizenship in February 2014, Ver has been denied three applications for a non-immigrant visa to speak at CES and The North American Bitcoin Conference (TNABC) this month.

It’s a decision that leaves the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services looking like a vindictive, scorned ex-lover and highlights the arbitrary and often counter-productive nature of our immigration policies.

No fence, just apparent vindictive penalties.

 

[KBCraig]

There is no fence keeping anyone here.

Funny thing about fences: they work both ways.

If you'll recall Cold War history, the Berlin Wall was erected to protect Ostberliners from the marauding capitalist Western hordes. And North Korea needs the DMZ to stop the ROK from invading and seizing all the great material wealth the PRK has accumulated over the last 65 years.

Cages work the same no matter which side of the bars you find yourself.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

What a horrible person Rosa Parks was she didn't just move to an area that didn't treat her like she wasn't as human as her fellow citizens.

 

[solus]

What's the penalty for calling Jesus a hypocrite?

uh, wouldn't you have to first prove the myth existed in the first place??

ipse

 

[Citizen]

What a horrible person Rosa Parks was she didn't just move to an area that didn't treat her like she wasn't as human as her fellow citizens.

Bravo!!

Once again, SVG delivers a succinct and devastating reply!

 

[Citizen]

Funny thing about fences: they work both ways.

If you'll recall Cold War history, the Berlin Wall was erected to protect Ostberliners from the marauding capitalist Western hordes. And North Korea needs the DMZ to stop the ROK from invading and seizing all the great material wealth the PRK has accumulated over the last 65 years.

Cages work the same no matter which side of the bars you find yourself.

+1

And, to use that as a springboard to take things even further:

Readers have heard of an American author pen-named Mark Twain.

Over the years, I had read a number of his stories. Obviously an astute observer of human nature...and an expert humorist. But that was all the credit I gave him--excellent comedian, exquisite insult-er. Despite Huckleberry Finn, I never quite recognized just how powerful his intellect, until...

The day I read his comment about the end of slavery.

He was glad for the end of slavery because [paraphrase] not only did it free the slave, it also freed the white man.

 

[Grapeshot]

There were white slaves, black slaves, slave of all colors. Same with slave owners. Jus' sayin'.

 

[Dave_pro2a]

There were white slaves, black slaves, slave of all colors. Same with slave owners. Jus' sayin'.

Thankfully... The honorable Abraham Lincoln freed them all. :/

 

[sudden valley gunner]

+1

And, to use that as a springboard to take things even further:

Readers have heard of an American author pen-named Mark Twain.

Over the years, I had read a number of his stories. Obviously an astute observer of human nature...and an expert humorist. But that was all the credit I gave him--excellent comedian, exquisite insult-er. Despite Huckleberry Finn, I never quite recognized just how powerful his intellect, until...

The day I read his comment about the end of slavery.

He was glad for the end of slavery because [paraphrase] not only did it free the slave, it also freed the white man.

An anti imperialist, with wonderfully written but heart wrenching words as this...

The enemy numbered 600 – including women and children – and we abolished them utterly, leaving not even a baby alive to cry for its dead mother. This is incomparably the greatest victory that was ever achieved by the Christian soldiers of the United States.

And when he found the death toll was higher...

Headline: Death list is now 900. I was never so enthusiastically proud of the flag till now.

 

[Citizen]

Current Events: The Pledge of Allegiance To the Flag

It seems a flap has developed in Santa Rosa County schools related to the Pledge of Allegiance. Compulsory pledging was banned by SCOTUS in 1943 (see the article linked below).

"We recite the Pledge of Allegiance every day in every school in Santa Rosa County. We feel that we live and work in the greatest country in the world and we make it clear to students that pledging allegiance to the flag is the culture that we want in our schools, but the law supersedes our desires," [Santa Rosa Schools Superintendent Tim Wyrosdick] said.

That was a blatant statement by the superintendent that he would actually compel students to pledge allegiance to the flag and the government--"...the law supercedes our desires..."

"That is where we are right now, it is not representative of what I believe, but it is the result of a court, of a judge interpreting the law saying a student does not have to stand and recite the pledge. I understand this may upset some parents, but they should turn their attention toward the court system — not the school district."

Yeah, parents. Turn your attention to the courts who, in a rare fit of sanity, sided with freedom. Just get the courts to overturn the ban on compelling students to pledge allegiance so we administrators can get back to inflicting our concept of patriotism on kids.



http://www.pnj.com/story/news/educa...y/74623574/?from=global&sessionKey=&autologin=

 

[Citizen]

An anti imperialist, with wonderfully written but heart wrenching words as this...

The enemy numbered 600 – including women and children – and we abolished them utterly, leaving not even a baby alive to cry for its dead mother. This is incomparably the greatest victory that was ever achieved by the Christian soldiers of the United States.

And when he found the death toll was higher...

Headline: Death list is now 900. I was never so enthusiastically proud of the flag till now.

Twain once wrote about his position on the jingoism "My country, right or wrong." He rejected it. He said he would stand by his country when it was right; but he would not blindly support it if he felt it was wrong. If he felt his country was wrong, he would say so--for the purpose of making it right again.

Your quote above, SVG, is a perfect example of Mark Twain doing just that.