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The Democrats have moved to uphold their treason

Saxxon

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Both the house and senate bills to repeal the magazine ban have been blocked by Democrats in committee. Its time to get rolling for November and put them back to work at their prior professions, or perhaps something more befitting their mental status like stable cleanup etc.

The things to remember whenever this comes up and they talk about how changing a magazine gives someone a chance to get away or tackle the sh ooter- Columbine almost 100 shots were fired using 10 round mags - no one stopped them. VA Tech 174 shots were fired and 17 magazine changes were accomplished - no one stopped the shooter. As to someone getting away as was alledged at Sandy Hook - no, someone didn't. Instead of shooting the kids that ran, others got shot. It wasn't a limitation of rounds available to fire, but the ability to hit more than one target at a time.

Had this law been in effect and all magazines 15 rounds at the time of the Aurora shooting, dozens more would have been hurt or killed. When the shooter's gun jammed, he wasn't firing for 20 some seconds - no one tackled him or stopped him. A few people might have gotten out of the theatre. But were it 6-7 15 round magazines, no one could have time to accomplish any meaningful progress out of the theater or toward stopping the attacker (without using a gun themselves) during the 2-5 seconds of reload time after each set of 15 shots. It would take a couple seconds after cessation of fire for them to percieve and act, by that time the shooter would resume firing.

For those who were testifying against the repeal - so many lies, so little time. You'd need to have a running commentary to counter the many half truths, distortions and outright lies told there. Especially vexing was the "US Naval Academy History Major" Mr. Pew who didn't even know what a Puckle gun was. He asserted that the founders never envisioned being able to fire many rounds quickly. Apparently was unaware of the medieval Ribald as well. Guess the Naval Academy isn't all its cracked up to be. Mr. Pew is also an unabashed Tory, he feels that only the police and military should have any firepower and should outgun the populace as a whole because we'll never have a tyranny like England, or never have a murderous regime like those of Germany, Russis or China. Ignorant or evil like any liberal.
 

JoeSparky

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Both the house and senate bills to repeal the magazine ban have been blocked by Democrats in committee. Its time to get rolling for November and put them back to work at their prior professions, or perhaps something more befitting their mental status like stable cleanup etc.

The things to remember whenever this comes up and they talk about how changing a magazine gives someone a chance to get away or tackle the sh ooter- Columbine almost 100 shots were fired using 10 round mags - no one stopped them. VA Tech 174 shots were fired and 17 magazine changes were accomplished - no one stopped the shooter. As to someone getting away as was alledged at Sandy Hook - no, someone didn't. Instead of shooting the kids that ran, others got shot. It wasn't a limitation of rounds available to fire, but the ability to hit more than one target at a time.

Had this law been in effect and all magazines 15 rounds at the time of the Aurora shooting, dozens more would have been hurt or killed. When the shooter's gun jammed, he wasn't firing for 20 some seconds - no one tackled him or stopped him. A few people might have gotten out of the theatre. But were it 6-7 15 round magazines, no one could have time to accomplish any meaningful progress out of the theater or toward stopping the attacker (without using a gun themselves) during the 2-5 seconds of reload time after each set of 15 shots. It would take a couple seconds after cessation of fire for them to percieve and act, by that time the shooter would resume firing.

For those who were testifying against the repeal - so many lies, so little time. You'd need to have a running commentary to counter the many half truths, distortions and outright lies told there. Especially vexing was the "US Naval Academy History Major" Mr. Pew who didn't even know what a Puckle gun was. He asserted that the founders never envisioned being able to fire many rounds quickly. Apparently was unaware of the medieval Ribald as well. Guess the Naval Academy isn't all its cracked up to be. Mr. Pew is also an unabashed Tory, he feels that only the police and military should have any firepower and should outgun the populace as a whole because we'll never have a tyranny like England, or never have a murderous regime like those of Germany, Russis or China. Ignorant or evil like any liberal.


So is the "history major" still writing only with QUILL AND INK? Being BLED by the surgeons for his medical care? NOT USING ANY TECHNOLOGY THAT DID NOT EXIST IN OR PRIOR TO 1791 AD?
 

Saxxon

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Let me gild the frame on that better.

The *history major* who graduated from the US Naval Academy claimed no knowledge of the Puckle gun, which was invented in 1718 for the express purpose of repelling boarders on ships! When you think about that, its astounding. Either the US Naval Academy is/was sorely lacking in thorough historical teaching, or the dude slept thru that segment, or he was lying about knowledge of multiple shot firearms existing prior to the US Constitution. He had even claimed specific study of Colonial Times as his area of specialty.

If someone was studying history at the NA I'd expect a complete history of naval warfare would be part of it. While it was never in wide use (a few were made and deployed in a land action though may not have been used), the Puckle gun as an idea and concept was novel for its time. The reason it wasn't adopted in wide use was that its function was ahead of the manufacturing capabilities of the time. After the American Revolution it would have had a much better chance with the invention of the concept of interchangable parts and machining at the end of the 18th century. As it was, its method of action apparently wasn't effectively actualized till after WWII in some experimental guns.
 

since9

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To further guild this frame, I just got off phone with two gents who were/are both in the Navy, one for 30 years, the other for 27 years. Both are Captains (O-6). One is still on active duty, the other retired. The retiree was not an academy grad and worked in aviation maintenance. The active duty gent was an academy grad, and worked in both aviation as well as surface ships.

Both are actively involved in shooting, hunting, and support 2A rights.

Both attended the U.S. Naval War College.

Neither of them had ever heard of a Puckle Gun.

Apparently, whoever designed the curricula for the U.S. Naval Academy and the Navy's other commissioning pipelines didn't consider Puckle Guns to be of sufficient worth to be included in the curricula.

It's an interesting factoid, to be sure. Just not of notable military importance.
 
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