Taxpayer Funded "Education" Pamphlet

[wylde007]

Philip Van Cleeve

philip@virginiasystems.com

 

[Grapeshot]

philip@virginiasystems.com

For those that do not make the connection, Philip is the president of VCDL.

 

[Blk97F150]

Got it, thanks. I knew about Phillip but wasn't sure if he was involved with it all, or if other EM's took care of some of it.

Thanks for the replies....

 

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Got it, thanks. I knew about Phillip but wasn't sure if he was involved with it all, or if other EM's took care of some of it.

Thanks for the replies....

At times Phil may already have a handle on the occurrence and be involved with the solution. Frequently, he will post to the EM mail list looking for a volunteer to follow through and update us with the results.

Many hands do make light work - that is why it is sooo good when not just a problem is reported, but when a member also gets into the trenches and provides a documented solution - takes action themselves.

 

[Blk97F150]

At times Phil may already have a handle on the occurrence and be involved with the solution. Frequently, he will post to the EM mail list looking for a volunteer to follow through and update us with the results.

Many hands do make light work - that is why it is sooo good when not just a problem is reported, but when a member also gets into the trenches and provides a documented solution - takes action themselves.

I agree. I'm willing to take some action (and have in a couple instances now...), but just wanted to see if anyone else wanted to be copied on it so they were 'in the loop' as well. Otherwise, you have a bunch of proverbial soldiers running around in the trenches, with no 'big picture' plan, and nobody knows exactly what each other is doing...

 

[Grapeshot]

At times Phil may already have a handle on the occurrence and be involved with the solution. Frequently, he will post to the EM mail list looking for a volunteer to follow through and update us with the results.

Many hands do make light work - that is why it is sooo good when not just a problem is reported, but when a member also gets into the trenches and provides a documented solution - takes action themselves.

I agree. I'm willing to take some action (and have in a couple instances now...), but just wanted to see if anyone else wanted to be copied on it so they were 'in the loop' as well. Otherwise, you have a bunch of proverbial soldiers running around in the trenches, with no 'big picture' plan, and nobody knows exactly what each other is doing...

It is always good to let VCDL/Phil know, especially when you have solved a problem. Then it can be recorded, checked off the list and reported on the Va-Alert.

Believe me when I say that the efforts and support of the membership is immensely appreciated!

 

[papa bear]

i just wanted to put in my 2 cents. i am often amazed how Philip gets all over the state

if you are not already a member you ought to join. believe me after dealing with people from a lot of different states at the Hillsvile gun show this weekend. we should be glad we have the VCDL.

 

[ed]

Let me put it this way, if I personally send a letter to a local city/county requesting that they correct/update their gun laws to come into compliance with state law... does anyone higher up the 'VCDL' food chain have any interest in being copied on that letter? If so, what is the email address that I should use for that copy?

Leadership@VCDL.org

 

[Blk97F150]

Thanks again Ed..... appreciate it.

 

[All American Nightmare]

Now, if only officers were required to follow these rules.While I have never once had hands placed on me except when I was actually being arrested (long story... well, stories) I know there have been untold instances of officers committing ASSAULT in the name of the ol' "officer safety" canard. Tyranny is defined as that which is unlawful for the citizenry yet lawful for the government.

I should have highlighted what I did not have problems with.

 

[nuc65]

I forgot about that pamphlet. Saw it but had other things on my mind at the time. The city of Lynchburg is found at http://www.lynchburgva.gov/ if you go to the Residents tab and down to public safety you will then be given a couple of links the LPD is at: http://www.lynchburgva.gov/Index.aspx?page=623 (I usually take the long way through the links because it has been known to change).

There is a link straight to the pamphlet in question: What to Do When You are Stopped by Police?

When I first saw it I thought it was written for people who didn't know they had rights or citizens without any knowledge of law.

After the Martinsville vs VCDL thing is ironed out I would also like to add my iron to the fire for the lobby/courtroom issue.

I had the LPD stop me and search for my non-existent weapon (just left work), the reason for the search was that I had a CHP so must have something. I did file an internal complaint which was summarily blown off by the investigating shift supervisor. I really need to privacy act it to see what he wrote down.