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Poor form. Woman does right to bear arms no favors

cce1302

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So sloppy people aren't allowed to defend themselves with firearms?

Not everyone is a salesman. Some just like the goods.

I find absolutely nothing wrong with her, except that I'm not likely to ask her out on a date.

I'm with Mac.

I don't dress like that. My wife doesn't dress like that. My daughter won't dress like that.

But that doesn't mean the woman in the pic shouldn't be open carrying.

Like it or not, she bears a strong resemblance to the average American.

I'm actually glad to see her carrying. It shows that normal people do what normal people do, and when they do it, they carry for their protection.

This does more to normalize open carrying than a guy like me (military background, neat-not military-haircut, trimmed beard, in good physical condition, dressed conservatively) because when someone sees me in khakis and a polo shirt or a tie open carrying, they think I'm an off-duty cop or detective and go back to grazing. Nobody mistakes her for an agent of the state. They look at her and see a woman who takes her own safety seriously. Probably a mom. Probably a wife. Certainly someone's daughter. Good to see her taking care of herself.
 

KBCraig

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IWB tuckable holster with retention? The only thing she's short of when it comes to "good form" is a strong belt.

Everything else is a matter of style, and I'd argue that she's being a helluva lot better amabassador for guns and open carry than that bunch of snobs commenting at TTAG.
 

Grapeshot

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After further consideration, she could be hot. Just need a pic from a different perspective.
Some people have a fondness for single malt beverages and the tendency thereof to alter their view of the world.

One man's poison is another man's cure.
 

Grapeshot

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Of course they are -- thus the implied question was, "So, what's the big deal?"
There was no "big deal" - it was only mentioned in describing the lady's holster when viewed as an enlarged image, nothing more.
 

KBCraig

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There was no "big deal" - it was only mentioned in describing the lady's holster when viewed as an enlarged image, nothing more.

Back up, Grape. We've had a failure to communicate.

The commenters at TTAG were making a big deal out of her mode of carry as well as her fashion sense.

I pointed out that other than not having a good belt, she's wearing a good holster with retention, so what's the big deal? There's not one -- we're on the same side there.

The PR nannies who are afraid that all OC gives us a bad name were just hyperventilating, that's all.
 

Grapeshot

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Back up, Grape. We've had a failure to communicate.

The commenters at TTAG were making a big deal out of her mode of carry as well as her fashion sense.

I pointed out that other than not having a good belt, she's wearing a good holster with retention, so what's the big deal? There's not one -- we're on the same side there.

The PR nannies who are afraid that all OC gives us a bad name were just hyperventilating, that's all.

Definitely didn't intend to attack you or anything you said. Sometimes I read to fast, and reply even faster. We're good.
 

JoeSparky

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The woman in the photo seems to me to be LAWFULLY CARRYING a firearm as is her right. I see NOTHING in the photo that would lead me to suspect that she was a prohibited person or doing anything illegal. Good for her!
 

ATM

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The RKBA and/or "the cause" (whatever that may be) don't really need any favors, but ridiculing another citizen peaceably carrying makes little sense and seems an affront to both.

I don't see a problem with that pic.
 

OC for ME

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The woman in the photo seems to me to be LAWFULLY CARRYING a firearm as is her right. I see NOTHING in the photo that would lead me to suspect that she was a prohibited person or doing anything illegal. Good for her!
Can't see whats in her cart, but she could be violating some federal code on what is appropriate to eat and what is not appropriate to eat as The Secretary may determine.
 

Red Dawg

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I agree with the "this isn't a fashion show" It's an exercise in rights. Geez, some of you guys would have a cow if you saw what I wear camping in the mtns sometimes. Not a pretty picture, but never know what/who you may run into...When ya gotta go, ya gotta go....
ALL KIDDING ASIDE, there is no need to spend a bazzillion dollars on wardrobe, and a Kimber Super Carry to defend you, and yours...I don't like snobs...
 

JoeSparky

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Can't see whats in her cart, but she could be violating some federal code on what is appropriate to eat and what is not appropriate to eat as The Secretary may determine.

Again, without some other indicator you haven't even acheived RAS that a crime is happening..... "Gut Feelings" are NOT RAS per court rulings.... PURE speculation does Reach to RAS!
 

77zach

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I agree with the "this isn't a fashion show" It's an exercise in rights. Geez, some of you guys would have a cow if you saw what I wear camping in the mtns sometimes. Not a pretty picture, but never know what/who you may run into...When ya gotta go, ya gotta go....
ALL KIDDING ASIDE, there is no need to spend a bazzillion dollars on wardrobe, and a Kimber Super Carry to defend you, and yours...I don't like snobs...

Is your butt completely visible in the mountains as this woman's would be upon bending over?

If keeping your junk in your pants in public is snobbish then I'm proud to be a snob.
 

KYGlockster

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I think the lady is carrying foolishly and sloppily. The gun is behind her in what looks to be a no retention holster with buttcrack exposed. This is not an image OCers should want to project.

Should she be forbidden from carrying in this manner? No. She's just not doing the cause any favors.

I'm not defending anyone or anything, but perhaps she doesn't care about "the cause." Maybe she only cares about having the ability to protect her self?

Personally I see NOTHING wrong with the way she is dressed or the way she is carrying. Yes, I would prefer for her to carry in a retention holster, but if she chooses to not do so then that is her RIGHT. I have noticed that we often forget about rights on this forum when they don't fit into our idea of what society should be.
 
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