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Open Carry Outreach at Cincinnati Pride Festival

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I am glad you assisted and pulled it off w/o a hitch...

tip of the hat to you and your band of...

ipse
 

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Just before the Orlando massacre I met up with my son in San Francisco who is considering moving there.

A tourist with a bunch of older children picked a fight with me in a Chinatown restaurant because he mistook my son as my gay lover. Maybe he confused Saddam with Sodom. More likely, San Francisco was probably reminding him uncomfortably about a bad experience he had in a high school locker room.

It was probably a good thing that he picked me to pick on: had he pulled this with a genuine member of the eight pack abs SFO gay community, it would have taken considerable time for the San Francisco cops to have sorted him and his family out from the Dim Sum.

Embarrassing the hell out of him was probably one of the best things I did on this trip. Next time he visits SFO, he is not likely to be so oriented towards gay bashing. He may find that his children's schedules have filled up considerably for vacations with dad for . . . say the next ten years.

Folks being vigilant about their civil rights -- to self-defense and self-determination -- have much more in common with each other than they do with the bible thumpers.

Never forget that.
 
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utbagpiper

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Is this outreach intended to convince liberals with a gun to not vote for liberals who want to take our guns?

Most homosexuals do not yet have guns. Helping them into the RKBA / self-defense community gives them what may be--for many--their first or most powerful reason to reconsider where they cast their votes.

Alternatively, they may persuade their favored candidates (local and State anyway) to stop attacking RKBA. Logically, the party that claims to be the champion of civil rights should be a strong supporter of RKBA rather than attacking it. We have one liberal democrat in the Utah legislature who is quite supportive of RKBA. She comes from a union background. I should be thrilled if the Democrats would pick up the banner of pro-RKBA. I don't expect it to happen. But I'd be thrilled if they did.

If nothing else, a couple of homosexuals (or small women, racial minorities, the elderly, or disabled) present a very powerful and different message to the media and legislative bodies when speaking of their need for self-defense than does the stereo-typical middle-aged, middle-class, conservative, heterosexual, white, male gun owner.

There is very little downside to these efforts beyond a possible waste of individual time. There is the potential for a significant upside in a couple of different directions. Those who organize and participate in these efforts are to be commended.

Charles
 

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Is this outreach intended to convince liberals with a gun to not vote for liberals who want to take our guns?
I felt I clearly described the purpose of the event in the Facebook "About" section, quoted in the initial post here on OCDO:

"The purpose of this event is to provide visible outreach to members of the LGBTQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Queer) community, who, like many, are sickened and apprehensive about the injuries and loss of life this past weekend at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.

Since the aim of this event is engagement and dialogue regarding self-defense, gun rights & privileges..."

No convincing, just dialogue about the above listed items.

This may or may not result in one or more of the following:

- Education about rights, privileges, firearms, and/or gun owners, enabling an individual to be a better prepared consumer of (biased) information about such things

- Stereotypes questioned/broken

- An willingness to be introduced to shooting

- A change in voting pattern

Etc. etc.


Dialogue may produce all sorts of things, but the way I approach it is not meant to convince anyone of anything. To cause someone to question beliefs or be interested in learning more about one or more things - ABSOLUTELY.
 

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Is this outreach intended to convince liberals with a gun to not vote for liberals who want to take our guns?

The event description, which is in this thread's initial post, make it clear what the Outreach is all about.
I felt I clearly described the purpose of the event in the Facebook "About" section, quoted in the initial post here on OCDO:

"The purpose of this event is to provide visible outreach to members of the LGBTQ (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transsexual, Queer) community, who, like many, are sickened and apprehensive about the injuries and loss of life this past weekend at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando.

Since the aim of this event is engagement and dialogue regarding self-defense, gun rights & privileges..."

No convincing, just dialogue about the above listed items.

This may or may not result in one or more of the following:

- Education about rights, privileges, firearms, and/or gun owners, enabling an individual to be a better prepared consumer of (biased) information about such things

- Stereotypes questioned/broken

- An willingness to be introduced to shooting

- A change in voting pattern

Etc. etc.


Dialogue may produce all sorts of things, but the way I approach it is not meant to convince anyone of anything. To cause someone to question beliefs or be interested in learning more about one or more things - ABSOLUTELY.
I got your point the first time.
 
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