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Open carry in restaurants illegal?

waapl01

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open carry vice concealed

I think the issue is that if there are other persons in the restaurant or bar. even if ur carrying and not drinking other drunks in the bar could see ur oc weapon and get stupis as opposed to it being concealed. Just a thought
You're right, aardvark, I could simply conceal when going to a restaurant; I'm usually the DD anyway so I'm rarely drinking as it is. I'm just not sure how easily I'd be able to conceal a full-size Springfield XDM40 or Glock 22 (the two guns I'm trying to choose between for my first firearm), especially since money's tight enough that I'll likely only be able to buy one holster for now, and I'm very definitely favoring the OWB styles (in theory -- I've yet to actually try out any).

That is a good point, insane.kangaroo, I could simply unload and enter. "Loaded" is defined in AK statutes (sorry, don't have the reference handy, but I think it's in the same section already being discussed here) as having a loaded magazine inserted and/or a round in the chamber. So I could simply eject the magazine and chambered round before I enter. I think I like that less than switching to CC, if only because it requires unholstering the weapon to rack the slide and eject that round, but at least that's another option.

And, of course, I could simply disarm and lock my weapon in my car before entering.

Either way, I'm going to write to my state legislators about this one. It seems silly to permit CC while restricting OC under otherwise identical circumstances. I would urge others to do the same as well.
 

Grapeshot

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I think the issue is that if there are other persons in the restaurant or bar. even if ur carrying and not drinking other drunks in the bar could see ur oc weapon and get stupis as opposed to it being concealed. Just a thought

Who is drunk? The person OCing? Do your state laws permit intoxication in public?

Insofar as "get stupid" possibilities, cite please. When and where has this occurred?

In Virginia a very large number of us OC every time we go out to eat. Never have found a single instance of an OCer being physically confronted.
 

Nanook

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Bottom line:

1) You can carry a loaded, concealed weapon into a restaurant if you have a CCW and you do not drink alcohol.

2) You can carry an unloaded weapon in a bar. (The term "loaded weapon" is explicitly defined in the statute; I comply by clearing the weapon and putting my pistol magazine in my pocket.)
 
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Flintlock

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Nanook, if you mean CCW to be a permit, you would be incorrect as a permit is not required in Alaska to conceal carry a firearm.
 

Archsgurl

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Bottom line:

1) You can carry a loaded, concealed weapon into a restaurant if you have a CCW and you do not drink alcohol.

2) You can carry an unloaded weapon in a bar. (The term "loaded weapon" is explicitly defined in the statute; I comply by clearing the weapon and putting my pistol magazine in my pocket.)


1] We dont need a CCW to OC or CC in Alaska, and we can OC and CC in a restaurant as long as we do not consume alcohol.

2] We cant carry in a bar. Some bars even have the sign that states "Turn in guns to bartender" which I think is cute, but I lock my gun in a car safe when I go somewhere where carrying is not allowed.
 
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