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[xmanhockey7]

This may have been addressed in this thread already but it is sorta grey, iffy area. I get that Indiana has a CARRY PERMIT. Doesn't state open or concealed. I'm in Ohio and have "A LICENSE to CARRY a CONCEALED HANDGUN".
Can I carry concealed in Indiana?

Thank You,
William

Yes anyone with a license to carry issued by any state or foreign country may carry in Indiana. How you carry does not matter as long as you have a license.

IC 35-47-2-21
Recognition of retail dealers' licenses and licenses to carry handguns issued by other states
b) Licenses to carry handguns, issued by other states or foreign countries, will be recognized according to the terms thereof but only while the holders are not residents of Indiana.

 

[William Fisher]

Thank You xman.

 

[William Fisher]

I'd like to know the name of the place too

I would LOVE to support this restaurant when in the area.:banana:

I to would like to know it's name. I'm In Oxford, Ohio and when it's posted I'll be coming over.

 

[BowhuntnHoosier]

Yes anyone with a license to carry issued by any state or foreign country may carry in Indiana. How you carry does not matter as long as you have a license.

IC 35-47-2-21
Recognition of retail dealers' licenses and licenses to carry handguns issued by other states
b) Licenses to carry handguns, issued by other states or foreign countries, will be recognized according to the terms thereof but only while the holders are not residents of Indiana.

I believe he will need to conceal because his license from Ohio apparently states he must conceal there. Text in red "according to the terms thereof". I may be wrong but would want to be sure before carrying here openly.

 

[xmanhockey7]

IC 35-47-2-21
Recognition of retail dealers' licenses and licenses to carry handguns issued by other states
b) Licenses to carry handguns, issued by other states or foreign countries, will be recognized according to the terms thereof but only while the holders are not residents of Indiana.

I believe he will need to conceal because his license from Ohio apparently states he must conceal there. Text in red "according to the terms thereof". I may be wrong but would want to be sure before carrying here openly.

Having a "concealed" carry license is not a "term". It your license is expired or has a restriction on it like "only for hunting and target shooting" I could see that being a term but not someone not being able to OC because they have a concealed carry permit. Indiana does not differentiate between open carry and concealed carry. They only see it as carry.

 

[hogeaterf6]

Spent Sunday up in the Fort. No probs oc'ing. Went to Quaker Steak & Lube, Meijer, Best Buy, and Jefferson Pt.

 

[hogeaterf6]

Saw a young OC'er in Roanoke Ind over the past week. Good to see another in the area.

 

[Titanium_frost]

Having a "concealed" carry license is not a "term". It your license is expired or has a restriction on it like "only for hunting and target shooting" I could see that being a term but not someone not being able to OC because they have a concealed carry permit. Indiana does not differentiate between open carry and concealed carry. They only see it as carry.

I couldn't agree more with this assessment. But be warned I do know some that disagree with this opinion.

My thoughts are that this wording is vague as to what "terms" they refer to in this IC and there is no case law to my knowledge to back up either viewpoint. IANAL

Sent from my BlackBerry 8530 while OCing at the Zoo

 

[griffin]

Sent from my BlackBerry 8530 while OCing at the Zoo

 

[CathyInBlue]

Adventures in Hoplophobia

I OC all the time here in Terre Haute. Have not had any problems, yet.

I had discussion with the Chief of Police and he assured me that even though he would like citizen's to CC, since there is no stipulation to do so that he and his force would enforce the laws "as written, NOT the way we would like it".

So far, he's been a man of his word :banana:

Apparently, training standards for the THPD have been lapsing in the three months since he told you that.

It's a long, but I'm told enjoyable, read, so I'll just link to it rather than copy-pasta. http://www.usacarry.com/forums/leo-encounters/24310-adventures-hoplophobia.html

Long story short, my first OC experience took me no further than out my own back door to sit on my own back stoop and after being forcibly disarmed and my pink slip demanded on my own property, I was browbeaten about concealing in my own backyard.

 

[cce1302]

Apparently, training standards for the THPD have been lapsing in the three months since he told you that.

It's a long, but I'm told enjoyable, read, so I'll just link to it rather than copy-pasta. http://www.usacarry.com/forums/leo-encounters/24310-adventures-hoplophobia.html

Long story short, my first OC experience took me no further than out my own back door to sit on my own back stoop and after being forcibly disarmed and my pink slip demanded on my own property, I was browbeaten about concealing in my own backyard.

Heck of a story. It's interesting that they tried telling you that you needed a LTCH on your own property. I wonder if that was an intentional lie, or just incompetence. The "you should conceal that" is the standard line from police officers, but I think there are a few who don't mind OC. Up here in SB/mishawaka, I know I have been observed open carrying by at least a dozen officers and never even been approached.

 

[Murphy]

Carried in Broadripple this weekend...

"Earth Day" festivities going all around. A bit too chilly for the usually large crowds.

Shopped at Fresh Market...wish we had one of those and a Cost Plus on our side of town. - No problems at all.

Ate at Yatz...they seemed to have changed their Mang Choux chicken recipe.
No problems, although one guy did notice and pointed it out to his friend who glanced at it, and went back to eating.

Walked a couple of neighborhoods for exercise.

No problems.

Didn't go down to the "College Bar" heavy area..no need to....

 

[cce1302]

OC'd at Potowatomi zoo (SB) and at Outpost Sports (mishawaka) on Saturday.

Nobody cared, except the guy who noticed that my hand was stamped from going to the gun show earlier that morning and had been there as well. Asked if I got any new toys. Did not comment on my handgun.

 

[hogeaterf6]

Was at a tt bar last week getting a couch dance when she said to take everything off my belt and pockets. Left my BUG behind my left hip, under my shirt. I thought she wouldnt feel it but at last she ran her foot accrossed it. Nothing said. She left and went to the DJ booth and talked with a guy then went to the back. We stayed another half hour but nothing was said.

Was at local auto zone getting stuff and guy said 'he gives LEO discounts'. I said 'im not Leo.' 'Oh I saw your firearm and assumed.' 'Nope but I do get a EMS discount.' No probs around town.

 

[Mark 1911]

Munster, IN

I jog early in the morning before work, it's still dark at that time. I usually CC because I think it gives me a tactical advantage, but will open carry when not practical to conceal, especially when the weather is too warm for the extra layer of clothing. The first time I open carried was while jogging at 3am, with the piece tight in the small of my back in a belly band. A police cruiser passed me head-on, so I don't think he noticed, but not sure. He continued about 2 blocks then did a u-turn and came back from behind me. He may have seen the piece in his mirror, or might have thought it was strange to see a jogger out at 3am, or the u-turn may have had nothing to do with me at all - don't know. All I know is that when he came up from behind he surely would have spotted it if he was looking my way at all. He didn't slow down, didn't even tap the brakes. I love telling that story to my friends and family. I love Indiana. The only bad thing is the smell that comes from across the state line to the west, just a few blocks from my house.

 

[protias]

I jog early in the morning before work, it's still dark at that time. I usually CC because I think it gives me a tactical advantage, but will open carry when not practical to conceal, especially when the weather is too warm for the extra layer of clothing. The first time I open carried was while jogging at 3am, with the piece tight in the small of my back in a belly band. A police cruiser passed me head-on, so I don't think he noticed, but not sure. He continued about 2 blocks then did a u-turn and came back from behind me. He may have seen the piece in his mirror, or might have thought it was strange to see a jogger out at 3am, or the u-turn may have had nothing to do with me at all - don't know. All I know is that when he came up from behind he surely would have spotted it if he was looking my way at all. He didn't slow down, didn't even tap the brakes. I love telling that story to my friends and family. I love Indiana. The only bad thing is the smell that comes from across the state line to the west, just a few blocks from my house.

Tactical advantage of what?

 

[Mark 1911]

Tactical advantage of what?

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I said I usually "CC", which means "concealed carry". I think concealed carry does afford some tactical advantage in self-defense situations. As I have thankfully never been in one, I can only speak hypothetically. I think of it this way, if there is a bad guy in my vicinity, there is less of chance that he will focus on me if my weapon is concealed. If he isn't focused on me, then maybe, just maybe, there is less of a chance him shooting me. Also, I'm not too proud to admit that there are guys out there who are bigger and badder than I am who could possibly disarm me if I was taken by surprise. For these reasons, I think concealed carry affords some tactical advantage for self-defense situations. I think the goal is to survive a bad situation and then be able to go home and kiss my wife. The less attention I draw to myself, the better chance I have. Having said that, I have been known to open carry in some situations, and I am happy I live in a state where it is legal.

 

[protias]

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I said I usually "CC", which means "concealed carry". I think concealed carry does afford some tactical advantage in self-defense situations. As I have thankfully never been in one, I can only speak hypothetically. I think of it this way, if there is a bad guy in my vicinity, there is less of chance that he will focus on me if my weapon is concealed. If he isn't focused on me, then maybe, just maybe, there is less of a chance him shooting me. Also, I'm not too proud to admit that there are guys out there who are bigger and badder than I am who could possibly disarm me if I was taken by surprise. For these reasons, I think concealed carry affords some tactical advantage for self-defense situations. I think the goal is to survive a bad situation and then be able to go home and kiss my wife. The less attention I draw to myself, the better chance I have. Having said that, I have been known to open carry in some situations, and I am happy I live in a state where it is legal.

I know what CC means. But this "tactical advantage" doesn't exist. Read through this thread and you'll see what.

 

[Mark 1911]

I know what CC means. But this "tactical advantage" doesn't exist. Read through this thread and you'll see what.

Thanks Protias. Good stuff. I just skimmed through it but will go back tonight and read it in detail. I'm a little skeptical, but am open minded on this issue. Like I said, the goal is to survive and to give the maximum opportunity of survival to me and my loved ones. I will go the route that affords the best chance.

 

[protias]

Thanks Protias. Good stuff. I just skimmed through it but will go back tonight and read it in detail. I'm a little skeptical, but am open minded on this issue. Like I said, the goal is to survive and to give the maximum opportunity of survival to me and my loved ones. I will go the route that affords the best chance.

I encourage everyone who desires to carry, to carry lawfully and how they feel best. Some people don't want attention from police or some obnoxious moron, and I completely understand. I however, do encourage people to OC as it does deter crime.