OC at Roy Rogers restaurant 10/5/07

[Demarest]

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Wynder wrote:

After reading (at great length) Demarests posts, its obvious he's as intolerable to anything except for open carry as the anti's are about guns.

I thought you were an educator? Your critical thinking skills are quite lacking, as is your understanding of English grammar. You would mean "intolerant."

I'm not the one saying that CC has a time and place. I'm not the one saying that when a US citizen is victim of police brutality, the police are correct, and we should not exercise our right to CC because of it. I'm opposing mirrored statements like that of others. That's a complete 180 of what you're claiming. Which is not based on this conversation at all, but the thread where you too made it clear that you believe it is somehow YOUR place to decide how others live and I rebutted it.

Those interested in the spillover I'm referring to can simply go here and begin with Wynder's second post and the debate that ensued. On this side of the coin anyways. On his, there was equal amount of tantrum and lashing out as we saw right here.

http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum4/5031.html

 

[Wynder]

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I thought you were an educator?

I'm a software and database developer and I teach computer science courses. Not English -- and I know I can't be like the all-mightly Demarest who never has made a typo before. That's why you're superior in every way.

I'm not the one saying that CC has a time and place.

But you just said, "...we all need to be open carrying as much as possible..."

Which is not based on this conversation at all, but the thread where you too made it clear that you believe it is somehow YOUR place to decide how others live and I rebutted it.

I can understand why you're trying to change the topic; however, in response to your misguided understandings of my ramblings, I believed it is the property owners place to decide how people must behave while on their property -- something you always seem to try to twist to suit your own agenda.

The only reason I'm 'lashing out' is because you're hurting the cause more than anything with your level of extremism. Yes, you can change the laws 100% with a good offense and a good lawyer; however, the culture of the people will not change 100% overnight with the changing of that law. It took scores of years to get to where we are now and it'll probably take scores of years to get to where we want to be, but people who've been misinformed and misguided need to be acclimated to the Second Amendment.

You are simply a zealot whose sole purpose it is to critique and berate anyone who does not follow your line of thinking. You're welcome to your line of thinking; however, in the end, you still come off looking like an ass.

 

[Demarest]

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Wynder wrote:

But you just said, "...we all need to be open carrying as much as possible..."

I can believe that we need to open carry without damning those who do not. You REALLY need to read better instead of jumping to conclusions based on a grudge you're carrying.

Wynder wrote:

I believed it is the property owners place to decide how people must behave while on their property -- something you always seem to try to twist to suit your own agenda.

Actually, it's something that I rarely discuss. Those interested where your grudge came from can follow the link I provided and see that it is YOU who shouts "property owner's rights" as a shield even when it's not the topic. Just as it isn't here.

Wynder wrote:

The only reason I'm 'lashing out' is because you're hurting the cause more than anything with your level of extremism.

Again, if you came with an open mind instead of a grudge, you would see that I'm trying to defend all of us from the damage inflicted by our own kind. If you're so worried about hurting the cause, then be sure to explain to Mr. D how blaming the victim and discouraging others from exercising their rights is "hurting the cause."

Wynder wrote:

You're welcome to your line of thinking; however, in the end, you still come off looking like an ass.

The only way I look like an ass is that I'm wasting time using logic to argue with somebody who clearly has no interest in facts or logic.

If programming is your field, I would expect a more competent grasp of A, B, C progression.

 

[Wynder]

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Actually, it's something that I rarely discuss. Those interested where your grudge came from can follow the link I provided and see that it is YOU who shouts "property owner's rights" as a shield even when it's not the topic. Just as it isn't here.

Neither is that other thread which is why I'm boggled you continue to bring it up, unless it's only to advertise your mentality that people must follow your line of thinking.

And, for the uninitiated, the issue of guns on campus (going back to our other thread since you seem dead set on dragging it into other threads) are inexorably linked.

Again, if you came with an open mind instead of a grudge, you would see that I'm trying to defend all of us from the damage inflicted by our own kind. If you're so worried about hurting the cause, then be sure to explain to Mr. D how blaming the victim and discouraging others from exercising their rights is "hurting the cause."

I'm in full support of Brian's actions -- I fully understand that his personal preference is going to be carrying concealed. I'm glad that he decided to open carry, even though he had some apprehension about it.

What I resent is you coming in and trouncing over his efforts which your holier-than-thou, "You're not allowed to make disclaimers in your posts," and your non-sequitor editorials.

The only way I look like an ass is that I'm wasting time using logic to argue with somebody who clearly has no interest in facts or logic.

You do that quite well without me, believe me. Because, especially in this thread, we have discussed no facts and no logic. This is all a matter of someones personal preference and feelings; though, since you seem so entrenched in logic and facts, you're unable to process that information while you're reading and blasting the folks whom you supposedly are "supporting".