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OC an AR-15 in National Parks

Thoreau

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kwikrnu wrote:
NavyLT wrote:
Ahh, well, if a National Recreation Area is a unit of the National Park System, then it would seem that the firearms prohibition in a National Recreation Area is, ummm, prohibited. :) I misread the statute myself, I missed the "unit of" part!
From what I've read tonight I think national recreation areas can be national parks (us department of the interior) or us forest service (us department of agriculture). I'm guessing that the us forest service national recreation areas must be off limits because they aren't mentioned in the act. I don't understand why the second amendment wouldn't apply equally to property of both departments.
Forest Service land has always applied state law as far as I've ever seen. (Speaking from an AZ perspective only, as I'm not familiar with anything outside of AZ when it comes to FS land.) I've carried consistently on numerous hikes/backpacking trips on FS land. Their website has always supported that, and half of those hikes have been with a FS ranger in my group =)
 

kwikrnu

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Thoreau wrote:
kwikrnu wrote:
NavyLT wrote:
Ahh, well, if a National Recreation Area is a unit of the National Park System, then it would seem that the firearms prohibition in a National Recreation Area is, ummm, prohibited. :) I misread the statute myself, I missed the "unit of" part!
From what I've read tonight I think national recreation areas can be national parks (us department of the interior) or us forest service (us department of agriculture). I'm guessing that the us forest service national recreation areas must be off limits because they aren't mentioned in the act. I don't understand why the second amendment wouldn't apply equally to property of both departments.
Forest Service land has always applied state law as far as I've ever seen. (Speaking from an AZ perspective only, as I'm not familiar with anything outside of AZ when it comes to FS land.) I've carried consistently on numerous hikes/backpacking trips on FS land. Their website has always supported that, and half of those hikes have been with a FS ranger in my group =)
I think it may depend upon who manages the us forest service land. There are two us forest service parks in TN that I know of. The Cherokee national forest and Land Between the Lakes. The Cherokee national forest is managed by the State so handguns are permitted under TN law. LBL must be managed by someone other than KY or TN because they have signs all over prohibiting guns.
 

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After a number of attacks on hikers and campers in Alaska, the Department of Fish & Game released the following advisory: We advise that outdoorsmen wear noisy little bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears. We also advise utdoorsmen to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between Black Bear and Grizzly Bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.

 

tekshogun

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compmanio365 wrote:
After a number of attacks on hikers and campers in Alaska, the Department of Fish & Game released the following advisory: We advise that outdoorsmen wear noisy little bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears. We also advise utdoorsmen to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter with a bear. It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between Black Bear and Grizzly Bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and squirrel fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.

BWAAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA! :lol:

Yeah, I'm all for finding a less violent way out of a situation, but sometimes that just isn't possible... To Hell With Not Being Armed
 
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