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Obama doing a few good things.....finally

sudden valley gunner

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I approve of decreasing sanctions against Cuba and Iran.

I also like he is looking at releasing some nonviolent drug related folks from prison.


Maybe he is just looking for a legacy, something good folks can attach to his regime. It doesn't outweigh the damage he has done, in his presidency which was a continuation of the Bush regime.
 

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I agree. We need to make sure more terrorist countries, have more money to try and kill us with.

It doesn't take all that much money to do that.

Maybe looking at ways to lessen their resentment of us has merit, though.
 

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It doesn't take all that much money to do that.

Maybe looking at ways to lessen their resentment of us has merit, though.

I see your point.

For myself, I'm sure the government of (insert Muslim country here) is just as criminal as our own. And, I'm sure those governments are just as glad to whip up anti-US fervor as our own government is happy to use jingoism, etc, to incite us to hate our fellow human beings.

But, like yourself, I'm happy if our government can stop giving recruiting tools to other criminal governments.
 

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Apparently you have very little understanding of what has motivated the attacks.

Oh, come, come. You're not trying to suggest the imperialism of the US government has something to do with it, are you? Nor, the crony capitalists?

And, you can't possibly be suggesting that other human beings in other countries are smart enough to figure out the bankrupt US government's economic and monetary policies are wrecking the planetary economy?

Puh-leeez.

/sarcasm directed at naysayers and jingoists.

:D
 
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sudden valley gunner

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Oh, come, come. You're not trying to suggest the imperialism of the US government has something to do with it, are you? Nor, the crony capitalists?

And, you can't possibly be suggesting that other human beings in other countries are smart enough to figure out the bankrupt US government's economic and monetary policies are wrecking the planetary economy?

Puh-leeez.

/sarcasm directed at naysayers and jingoists.

:D


LOL...my bad...I forgot about "American Exceptional-ism".....LOL
 

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I suspect it's about race.

And it's a pansy PR move. Commuting the sentence of a few prisoners does nothing to end the atrocious war on civil liberty.
 

sudden valley gunner

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Why not all non-violent burnouts?

Anyway, a few attaboys will not wipe away the 1000 awshoots.

Agreed. I think his timing is suspicious. Trying to create a little bit of a legacy for himself. I wish it was all non violent, non crime criminals.....but will happily grab a slice of the loaf even though we should be getting the whole loaf.
 

sudden valley gunner

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Really? Neither have done squat with respect to human rights. They make China's faux pas look like a swat on the leg.

Obama has done NOTHING good lately. Or ever, for that matter.


US condemning others and sanctioning them for human rights violations is hypocritical.

Trade between individuals is the higher moral ground.
 

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Will we ever have "the perfect President"?
One that does everything just right?
At the right time?
For the right reason?
To satisfy everyone?

When you get done laughing hysterically, do answer....
 

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No president would be perfect and I am fine without having one.

I was re-reading a part of Leonard Levy's Origins of the Bill of Rights this morning, the section on the Fourth Amendment. One of the Founders (Adams? Madison?) remarked that a Parliament was dangerous to liberty.

Then came the part that I cannot for the life of me imagine how I overlooked it before: the British constitution ties down the monarch.

Whoa! That's right. The king can't do this; the king can't do that. But, Parliament had (still has?) large powers. Basically, lots of power transferred from monarch to Parliament. In a manner of speaking, the weasels in Parliament simply transferred power from the monarch to themselves.

Don't get me wrong--scattered across the centuries and documents comprising the British constitution there are individual rights and liberties. So, I'm not saying their constitution only transferred power from king to Parliament. But, its definitely an aspect of things. Just review the English Civil War. And, the later abdication of James II after which Parliament invited William of Orange and his wife Mary to reign (Mary had a blood-line legitimacy to the throne).
 
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