NYSRPA case might open opportunity for LOC Activism in CA and other No OC and "May Issue" CCW states!

[Paladin4CA]

(Mods, please move thread if this is wrong forum.)

Hi folks,

I haven't been around much. I mostly visit CGN where I've been keeping up with the NYSRPA case that's been granted cert. by SCOTUS. My guess is that in the first full week of July (probably that Monday -- ~3 weeks from now), SCOTUS will say when the case will be heard (probably Oct). My *guess* is the opinion will be released sometime between Christmas and July 1st of next year. There are many cases stayed, pending its decision, including carry cases like Rogers, Gould and Young (LOC & CCW before CA9 en banc panel, and the Nichols LOC case is pending Young). My suggestion is OCDO folk closely watch NYSRPA because it (or a case pending upon it), might present an opportunity for activism the likes of which we haven't seen since the old UOC meetups in CA (as well in other restrictive/banned OC states).

Like I said, we probably have at least 6 months before a decision is release, but best to start thinking about possible activism now rather than wait until the holidays. While LOC and CCWs are unrelated, if I had to choose a county to hold meet ups in CA, I'd prefer a county where the sheriff has a proven anti Carry record to one who's done what they can to allow us to Bear Arms to defend ourselves from the Bad Guys.

 

[solus]

W O W!

Absolutely just W O W!

Got the initials down pat which doesn’t contribute one iota to the comprehensive to your post whatsoever!

Are you personally associated with baggss.us since you state “we probably....”

I am personally confused about your supposition after touting the significance of NYXYZABD case with your aside commentary where you state, “(or a case pending upon it)”.

Finally, the forum mandates requiring cites ?

Purdy picture tho...not sure of relevance to the overall schema of your thread’s post, but is flat out purdy...

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

Looks to me like he is just surmising how the New York case might effect CA.

Not very hard to understand at all.

Never new guessing and surmising required citation.

 

[solus]

Looks to me like he is just surmising how the New York case might effect [sic] CA.

Not very hard to understand at all.

Never new [sic] guessing and surmising required citation.

So FI, pray tell the good OC’g readership where did the data comprising the prudy picture come from to unequivocally substantiate the claim “ 36 good cause counties”, etc., and how does those tidbits of info ‘blend’ into your commentary of the OP just pointing out “the NY case ‘might’ affect CA”?

Please don’t forget the caveat ‘counties may be off one color ~ depending on the current policy’. So 36 counties shown as good cause might not in fact accurately reflect that total? Seems they could be substantially higher or lower depending on the ‘current’ policy!

Finally FI, this is still the OPEN CARRY forum and the “good cause” is all about convincing the good CA sheriff(s) the citizen wants their privilege card to carry CONCEALED.

 

[OC for ME]

(Mods, please move thread if this is wrong forum.)

Hi folks,

I haven't been around much. I mostly visit CGN where I've been keeping up with the NYSRPA case that's been granted cert. by SCOTUS. My guess is that in the first full week of July (probably that Monday -- ~3 weeks from now), SCOTUS will say when the case will be heard (probably Oct). My *guess* is the opinion will be released sometime between Christmas and July 1st of next year. There are many cases stayed, pending its decision, including carry cases like Rogers, Gould and Young (LOC & CCW before CA9 en banc panel, and the Nichols LOC case is pending Young). My suggestion is OCDO folk closely watch NYSRPA because it (or a case pending upon it), might present an opportunity for activism the likes of which we haven't seen since the old UOC meetups in CA (as well in other restrictive/banned OC states).

Like I said, we probably have at least 6 months before a decision is release, but best to start thinking about possible activism now rather than wait until the holidays. While LOC and CCWs are unrelated, if I had to choose a county to hold meet ups in CA, I'd prefer a county where the sheriff has a proven anti Carry record to one who's done what they can to allow us to Bear Arms to defend ourselves from the Bad Guys.

https://www.nysrpa.org/ - New York State Rifle and Pistol Association (NYSRPA)

CanadianGunNutz.com - Canadian Firearms News, Forums and Classifieds (CGN?)

Licensed Open Carry (LOC)

Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW)

Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS)

Unloaded Open Carry (UOC)

Open Carry Dot Org (OCDO)

California (CA)

Open Carry (OC)

[Federal] Court of Appeals, 9th District (CA9)

Request a cite for the above cases referenced.

Thanks in advance.

Edit to correct word placement.

 

[Firearms Iinstuctor]

Looks like the only one here having a problem with this is you other readers and members can pipe in any time they want.

The charts and graphics are what they are one can look at them as one wants to.

 

[solus]

Thanks OC for ME for your translation of the OP’s gobbly gook posting, but I see your CGN -Canada’s equivalent of US’s disgraced back page site [replaced by Northwest/Southwest firearms forums] with...China General Nuclear

LOC with Library of Congress

UOC with University of Columbia, or Urgent Orthopedic Care, etc.

[sarcasm - off]

 

[color of law]

This whole thread has me scratching my head. I read this last night when it posted. I quickly determined that my double secrete decoder ring was useless. First this post is posted in the "News & Political Alerts" thread, not "California" thread. Why, I don't know. What is the NEWS and/or POLITICAL ALERTS addressed in the OP's post? I'm at a loss to figure that one out.

All this case is about is the right to transport your private property to and fro from place to place with out the permission of the government. The amicus briefs are all over the place.

All I see is a very narrow decision only applying to New York or any place that has a similar law.

 

[CJ4wd]

Thanks OC. That "alphabet soup" had me scratching my head as well.

 

[solus]

Looks like the only one here having a problem with this is you other readers and members can pipe in any time they want.

The charts and graphics are what they are one can look at them as one wants to.

seems that they have eh, FI?

 

[Paladin4CA]

Looks to me like he is just surmising how the New York case might effect CA.

Bingo!

Not very hard to understand at all.

Not many MENSA members around here....

Never new guessing and surmising required citation.

LOL!

 

[Paladin4CA]

https://www.nysrpa.org/ - New York State Rifle and Pistol Association (NYSRPA)

CanadianGunNutz.com - Canadian Firearms News, Forums and Classifieds (CGN?)

Licensed Open Carry (LOC)

Carry Concealed Weapon (CCW)

Supreme Court of the United States (SCOTUS)

Unloaded Open Carry (UOC)

Open Carry Dot Org (OCDO)

California (CA)

Open Carry (OC)

[Federal] Court of Appeals, 9th District (CA9)

Request a cite for the above cases referenced.

Thanks in advance.

Edit to correct word placement.

You got them all, except CGN: CalGuns.Net
Since I'm not sure re. the propriety of posting links to other forums on here, I'll just say if you go to CGN and look in their 2nd A Litigation and National 2nd A Political and Legal forums, you can find threads dedicated to those cases there (usually incl a link in the OP to their SCOTUS dockets).

 

[solus]

Ya know palidin4ca, in your nine [9] years of hiatus things might have changed, however, this mensa wannta be knows in today’s on-line environments they have published guidelines for posters...

So in the spirit & interest for providing assistance to the professed mensa poster [since they were the only one who understood it] a bit of camaraderie fellowship...

(5) CITE TO AUTHORITY: If you state a rule of law, it is incumbent upon you to try to cite, as best you can, to authority. Citing to authority, using links when available,is what makes OCDO so successful. An authority is a published source of law that can back your claim up - statute, ordinance, court case, newspaper article covering a legal issue, etc.