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Notification Issue in Ohio...

autosurgeon

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Recently on a traffic stop the officer said" I would like to search your vehicle" I with a smile replied" I would like it if you did not" and more specifically you do NOT have my permission to search any of my property. He dropped that line of discussion. I was stopped BC my turn signal was acting up... old car needs a new switch.

I was carrying and he of course knew that so I don't know what prompted the request to search. I sometimes think small town officers are the worst... this was in Bangor MI. The fact that he dropped it so fast tells me he knew he didn't have any RS.

If not for this group on here a few years ago I wouldn't have known how to respond and likely would have had my car searched.

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DrTodd

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Recently on a traffic stop the officer said" I would like to search your vehicle" I with a smile replied" I would like it if you did not" and more specifically you do NOT have my permission to search any of my property. He dropped that line of discussion. I was stopped BC my turn signal was acting up... old car needs a new switch.

I was carrying and he of course knew that so I don't know what prompted the request to search. I sometimes think small town officers are the worst... this was in Bangor MI. The fact that he dropped it so fast tells me he knew he didn't have any RS.

If not for this group on here a few years ago I wouldn't have known how to respond and likely would have had my car searched.

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I've been asked that before too, but the officer then said, "Why, do you have something to hide?"
I responded, "Nope, just respecting the Constitution and I have better things to do." He smiled and said, "Have a nice day, then." As you alluded to, I have this website to thank for the confidence to stand my ground.
 

autosurgeon

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I've been asked that before too, but the officer then said, "Why, do you have something to hide?"
I responded, "Nope, just respecting the Constitution and I have better things to do." He smiled and said, "Have a nice day, then." As you alluded to, I have this website to thank for the confidence to stand my ground.

Knowledge is power!
 

Scooter123

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Macomb, Michigan, USA
First, I grew up in the Akron Canton area and 40 years ago Canton was a Rat Hole. I have no doubt at all that today it's an even worse Rat Hole. Tip to anyone considering visiting the Football Hall of Fame, drive a rental and make sure you purchase the Theft Insurance, because it's about 50-50 you'll need it. BTW, back in the day LA was a slange reference for Lower Akron. Chissie Hinds of the Pretenders hails from Lower Akron and while she has immense talent if you've ever seen her you'll know what the typical resident of LA looks like. Meaning they are damned ugly and mainly descendents of transplanted inbred WV Hillbillies. Venture into some areas of Lower Akron and you'll start to think you wandered onto the set of Deliverence. While LA is bad, Canton is worse.

Second. The most abused drug by Police Officers is Steroids. IMO what we are seeing is a perfect example of Roid Rage and that "police officer" probably has major rage issues because he can no longer "get it up" and has testicles the size of peas. So, to compensate he does hooker patrols so that he can abuse those who are still capable of actually using the services of a hooker. Probably also hits the singles bars looking for suspected drunks for the same reason.

Third. Latest word is that officer is now on unpaid suspension and the Canton PD has initiated the process of firing him. Since it is a union shop that will take some time. Hopefully at some point the Feds will step in with some Civil Rights charges. Rumor from my brother in the area is that the Canton PD is also looking into hanging a few Felony charges on this miscreant. Quite simply the Canton DA and Chief of Police are both somewhat shocked by this video and really really really pissed off that this officers supervisors didn't take action sooner.

Fourth. I believe that the Victim in this case WAS Trolling for Hookers. I don't buy his phony balony story for one second. That doesn't excuse the "officers" conduct but bad things happen when you go out trolling for hookers, you could get AIDS, have your throat cut for 20 bucks, or get shot by some impotent "cop" tweaked up by Roids. Word to the wise, don't do it.

Finally, in regards to Notification, I am in Favor of it. As for why, look that the number of Police Officers who have been shot by people carrying illegally in the last few years. Notification advises the Police Officer in advance that you have been certified by the State and FBI as not being a Felon or having a history of engaging in crime. Without notification if a Police Officer spots that you are carrying that encounter will quickly elevate to a Felony Stop and you'll be looking down the barrel of a gun. I don't care if it's mandatory or voluntary, if I am ever stopped while carrying I will be presenting my CPL right along with my license. If that officer want to take temporary posession of my firearm for his safety I'm also fine with that, I would just ask that he drop the mag before taking it from my holster. That way I can only get shot once if his trigger disclipline is really horrible and hopefully retire comfortably after recovering from my wound.

BTW, in 40 years of driving I have not once been treated with anything except courtesy and respect by every single police officer I have encountered. While the evidence is quite clear that there are some bad apples on police forces all over this country, my experience is that they are probably pretty rare. Or, because I have always treated the police with respect and been honest with them, even the bad apples treat me well. Quite simply, a simple "hello officer how may I help you" and a friendly approach can go a long way towards making things go smoothly. BTW, I am not a Saint when it comes to driving within limits, however that approach has resulted in my recieving very few citations in 40 years of driving and more warnings than I can count.
 

NHCGRPR45

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Whats worse is that hes probably done something like this before, its not easy to get fired once your a cop. And even this most likely wouldn't have been enough to get canned over if it was a first time offense.
 

PistolPackingMomma

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Whats worse is that hes probably done something like this before, its not easy to get fired once your a cop. And even this most likely wouldn't have been enough to get canned over if it was a first time offense.

I don't have the link handy, but I remember reading that this is NOT his first offense. He's apparently been relocated from multiple states due to complaints. There may even be a second video of a similar encounter floating around somewhere.
 

Bearhawk

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Gun Plain Twp, MI (gotta love that name)
This is one of the reasons I choose to avoid Ohio whenever possible as it is worse than MI when it comes to infringing on rights!

While Ohio does have it's problems, when I was a resident there I never had to register a pistol, never had to get a "safety inspection" and never ever had to ask the state for a written permission slip (purchase permit) to go buy a pistol. All states have their problems and Michigan isn't a 2A paradise either. This registration crap you guys have put up with for decades is unbelievable.

On topic, the cop should be tried for threatening to murder, threatening to do grave bodily harm, etc. There should be a criminal trial against the guy.
 

Glock9mmOldStyle

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Quoted for truth +1

At least they stick together better than we do. If one of us gun owners were to openly carry our handguns, it becomes hard to figure out who the enemies are.


Sadly,

We firearms owners tend to miss the big picture and that is: a injury to any one of our rights is an injury to ALL of our rights. Hey I don't duck hunt, but if for some reason they (insert various groups / Gov. agencies) try to deny their constitutional rights, I will stand up next to them in defense of those rights. This should be a given for all freedom loving U.S. citizens but in today's fragmented society many of us seem to lose the big picture in all the clutter.

I say what ever happened to all for one and one for all? United we are unstoppable. Divided we are chaff in the wind.
 
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