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No guns in KFC

utbagpiper

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thanks for the familiar name calling greeting mate...

As all here are well aware, they are done only and exclusively in response to your intended insulting form of address toward me. Address me with minimum respect as to avoid a term you know I find offensive and the civility will be returned. Continue to act like a puerile brat and you have no claim on decorum beyond what the mods enforce as forum rules.

truly sorry you missed the connection in my last post regarding the kind and apparently the unbiased governing legislature body of your outstanding State passing such great legislation and i am sure more...
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(jim crow laws historically passed from legislatures composed of similar minded white, religiously orientated individuals?)

Actually, it is I who must apologize for missing the obvious connection. Your years of non-linear, sanctimonious, stream of consciousness posts now all make sense. How could I have missed it.

Let me see if I can summarize for clarity.

White, religiously orientated individuals passed racist jim crow laws so anything white, religiously orientated individuals do is suspect.

What the crap were those self-serving white, religiously orientated individuals doing when they seceded from England? Or when they adopted the Bill of Rights protecting our religious freedom and RKBA? They clearly had suspect motives as they waged war and passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments to abolish slavery and assure civil rights for all.

It is a good thing you took your critical view of white, religiously orientated individuals (and really, mostly men; not many women in these evil groups were there?) rather than toward middle eastern men not motivated by religion when they fly airplanes into buildings or commit other acts of terrorism. Similarly that you don't paint with similar broad brushes when large groups of black men riot and burn down cities, or when groups of black young men or young women engage in horrific violent crimes. Or even when groups of communist atheists commit genocide on such a scale as to make WWII Germany look like rank pikers. Anyone who painted with broad brushes in these cases would be rounding criticized as the worst of small minded bigots. You were savvy enough to keep your ugly stereotypes confined to "White, religiously orientated individuals. That is truly very brave my faux aussie friend.

Moving on, it appears that you approve of the civil disobedience of the Civil Rights movement. So, violating both statute and the private property rights of small businesses in the 1960s was a good thing to you because it helped bring about the end of racial segregation and other legalized discrimination.

But, my obeying all applicable laws while quietly ignoring a discriminatory and unenforced policy at a multi-billion dollar, nation-wide corporation rubs you the wrong way because.....why exactly?

Respecting the private property rights of multi-billion dollar, nation-wide corporations is an essential trait for you, but a law providing protections for the private property rights of any church that wishes to avail itself of that law is very offensive to you because....why exactly?

You have long exhibited the kind of irrational, contradictory views that remind us why "small minded" goes so naturally with "bigot." You greatly value private property rights (except when you don't), and presumably the 2nd amendment (though you rarely post much in actual support of individual RKBA), but are overtly hostile to 1st amendment freedom of religion. Your posts also frequently demonstrate a desire to "challenge" others, to demonstrate your superiority, and to belittle any who disagree with your enlightened view. It appears that you suffer from either extreme bigotry and hatred, or from some other from of equally debilitating mental defect. I'm not saying you do so suffer. Only that your behavior lends the appearance of such suffering.

Here is a tip. I live my life as I see fit, peacefully and in accordance with applicable laws. I have chosen to live in a place where the laws better reflect my views than do the laws in many other areas of the nation. That my lifestyle, or the laws or culture of my chosen State do not conform to your superior views of how the world should be ordered, is so far beyond your control that your on going insistence to rail against them expose your own problems.

Do enjoy living with the knowledge of your absolute impotence to change either.
 
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solus

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mountain meadows massacre & polygamy and other debacles are in some cases historical facts mate

just like jim crow laws (some still exist on the books) and the sit-ins (majority nonviolent btw) historical facts of past eras

sorry, you again missed the point of how jim crow laws manifested themselves in the first place, cuz as you state-you live in a state wide community with like minded citizens living your lifestyle passing laws to protect the lifestyle at any cost!
 
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utbagpiper

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mountain meadows massacre & polygamy and other debacles are in some cases historical facts mate

just like jim crow laws (some still exist on the books) and the sit-ins (majority nonviolent btw) historical facts of past eras

When you continue to refer to me as "mate" when I have repeatedly requested you not do so, it is clear you are engaging in insult. It may be moderator sanctioned insult. But it is insult nonetheless. I believe "not savant" and "faux aussie" are no more insulting. We'll see if the moderators are even handed or show some bias about what non insulting forms of address are permissible.

Your post is also the predictable next volley from many anti-religious bigots. Bring up Mountain Meadow while ignoring Haun's Mill, the Missouri Extermination Order, evictions from New York and Illinois, the murder of multiple religious leaders while being held in State custody, and the deliberate desecration of sacred sites. To be clear, none of those things excused or justified Mountain Meadow. But to act as if "white, religiously orientated individuals" have some unique capacity for bad behavior is patently dishonest. Again, it is atheists who hold the world record for innocent people brutally murdered.

To again summarize your non-linear thought processes, homosexual unions are deserving of full legal protections because consenting adults have the right to love whom they will and to order their private lives according to their shared desires. However, polygamy is a "debacle" because consenting adults do not have a right to love whom they will and to order their private lives according to their shared desires if those desires make the faux aussie uncomfortable. Did I miss anything here no savant?

sorry, you again missed the point of how jim crow laws manifested themselves in the first place, cuz as you state-you live in a state wide community with like minded citizens living your lifestyle passing laws to protect the lifestyle at any cost!

How the jim crow laws manifested is not particularly relevant to how they ended and your inconsistent views on when one is compelled to respect the private property rights of discriminatory policy vs when one is justified in ignoring such policies. You are greatly bothered because I quietly ignore Coscto's anti-gun policy, but you are supportive of civil rights activists ignoring anti-black policies at small lunch counters. You are so focused on blaming "white, religiously orientated individuals" for every injustice you see in the world that you are blind to your own irrationality.

And what exactly about the Utah lifestyle do you find so objectionable? That we actually support 1st amendment freedom of religion as well as 2nd amd RKBA? Oh the horrors of respecting all of the constitution. That our liquor laws are stricter than Vegas but less strict than many areas in the Bible Belt? The horror of local control per the 21st amendment. What is in your craw besides rank bigotry and hatred?

The point is, not savant, you are so grossly inconsistent as to continue manifesting the kind of small mindedness only explainable by extreme bigotry or other severe mental defect.

And you remain utterly impotent to change either my lawful behavior or the laws and culture of my State, which continues to have some of the best overall RKBA laws in the nation.
 
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FreedomVA

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how did this post go from trespassing @ KFC to trespassing on Church grounds? Never have i seen fried chickens while church is in session.
 

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how did this post go from trespassing @ KFC to trespassing on Church grounds? Never have i seen fried chickens while church is in session.
Fried chicken every Wednesday night supper. I tried to keep it on the KFC thing...it didn't work. Like I stated, as to my choice, I see a sign, my money goes elsewhere. You may hold a differing view. Quality of KFC food notwithstanding.
 

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When you continue to refer to me as "mate" when I have repeatedly requested you not do so, it is clear you are engaging in insult. --snipped--
Think that you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. "Mate" is simply a colloquial term that virtually no one but you finds offensive.

IMO - we are all mates here, individually and collectively supporting the right to OC.
 

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how did this post go from trespassing @ KFC to trespassing on Church grounds? Never have i seen fried chickens while church is in session.
Never been preached to about the evils of fried chicken?

Maybe the OP title should be changed from "No guns in KFC" to "No guns in KFC, No chicken in church."

:lol:
 

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Years ago I was preached to on the evils of KFC. Before that I had not been aware of the name change of the company, or of the composition of their product, "pieces and parts, fused."
They lie when the say "Original recipe."

Lee's Fried Chicken is far better than KFC. Mr. Lee was an original partner of the Col before they split up.

https://www.leesfamousrecipe.com/locations/all
 

solus

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as i glance up as a banner has appeared where gun ads had been for Frisch's big boy with a luncheon special of a basket of fries and chicken nuggets w/drink.

gotta love modern technology...
 

utbagpiper

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Think that you are making a mountain out of a mole hill. "Mate" is simply a colloquial term that virtually no one but you finds offensive.

IMO - we are all mates here, individually and collectively supporting the right to OC.

Your personal biases have been made abundantly clear in how you have moderated or not moderated posts.

As with a few other members, I have politely and repeatedly requested that I be addressed by either my given name or by my login. Others receive this basic respect. For some reason it remains fair game to refer to me by any number of unwelcome, often downright insulting terms. You have allowed others to repeatedly use "gag piper" for example. You have defended the clearly deliberate misspelling of the name of residents of my State.

Even when a term is not inherently offensive, to address a man by a nickname, or an overly familiar form of address when such is not welcome is both presumptuous and insulting.

If I were to take to refering to you as "my little buddy" I doubt you'd take that as appropriate no matter how much The Skipper really loved Gilligan.

But when a Southernern feigns ignorance of basic etiquette so as to justify the bad behaviour of his buddies (and are we not all buddies here, so you have no reason to take offense to me describing the faux Aussie in such terms as "your buddy", right?), no amount of logic or appeal to decency is going to change his mind. But a little honesty to just admit that you like to see me needled would be far more becoming than is the current tactic regarding your buddy's conduct.

And don't bother with another PM threatening to poof, make me disappear.

Do what you want to do and be done with it. It is clear that becoming cop watch Jr and anarchy central is acceptable as long as it keeps up the number of clicks. So go right ahead and ban me if you are so thin skinned.
 
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utbagpiper

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how did this post go from trespassing @ KFC to trespassing on Church grounds? Never have i seen fried chickens while church is in session.

Simple. A couple of anti-religious bigots like to lob attacks against the church I attend rather than honestly and rationally discuss the issues at hand including why so many here are opposed to anti-discrimination protections for gun carriers.
 

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Simple. A couple of anti-religious bigots like to lob attacks against the church I attend rather than honestly and rationally discuss the issues at hand including why so many here are opposed to anti-discrimination protections for gun carriers.
There is no anti-discrimination protection for gun carriers. Seriously doubt there ever will be.
 

utbagpiper

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There is no anti-discrimination protection for gun carriers. Seriously doubt there ever will be.

True, and you may well be right, respectively, at least at the federal level. I note that we do have a small but critical measure of what is effectively anti-discrimination protection for gun carriers in Utah. Most State and local government employees are protected in their ability to carry on the job without fear of negative employment actions. Most private sector employees are protected with "parking lot preemption" so they can keep a gun in their car, even if parked in the company parking lot, without fear of negative employment actions.

Observing what is and predicting what is likely to be are very different than advocating or arguing for what one wants.

Whatever good faith disagreements there may be in these areas, such observations, predictions, and personal preferences remain solidly in the realm of civil, mature discussion. That, in stark contrast to the baiting and bigotry that some are wont to do the moment they face otherwise civil disagreement and rational objections to their expressed opinions.
 
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