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Man aged 107 killed *** ***** by police in his bedroom
- Thread starter 77zach
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bushwacker
Regular Member
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ok, don't know if you are understanding what it is that I am saying ,but that's ok. however , I don't see how you can compare an event where everyone agrees on a certain set of rules to where as a certain person makes final decisions in the field of play (sport) as to laws and enforcement where only a few make decisions for all that goes against what everybody has agreed (basic constitutional rights)and how they are enforced (the badge). not really a good comparison to me seeing that they are two totally different things ,after all an umpire isn't going to beat, jail, or shoot you. (or at least I hope he isn't )
so when you are out exercising your constitutional rights and the messenger comes and beats ,jails or shoots you, what kind of message did he bring you? ..laws are really a fantasy of a few (so it is written so it shall be done)when as seen from the beginning of civilization people are going to do what they really want to do regardless. its the enforcement that the commands many to compliance or submission to surrender that of which they have rights of. and yes, you don't shoot the messenger unless you want to send a reverse message back down the line to the sender...and the message ....we ain't taking that crap.
I believe that the 2 amendment gives us the rights to defend ourselves, problem is it doesn't define at what time or event that would be the breaking point for us to start shooting the messenger .
ok, don't know if you are understanding what it is that I am saying ,but that's ok. however , I don't see how you can compare an event where everyone agrees on a certain set of rules to where as a certain person makes final decisions in the field of play (sport) as to laws and enforcement where only a few make decisions for all that goes against what everybody has agreed (basic constitutional rights)and how they are enforced (the badge). not really a good comparison to me seeing that they are two totally different things ,after all an umpire isn't going to beat, jail, or shoot you. (or at least I hope he isn't )
so when you are out exercising your constitutional rights and the messenger comes and beats ,jails or shoots you, what kind of message did he bring you? ..laws are really a fantasy of a few (so it is written so it shall be done)when as seen from the beginning of civilization people are going to do what they really want to do regardless. its the enforcement that the commands many to compliance or submission to surrender that of which they have rights of. and yes, you don't shoot the messenger unless you want to send a reverse message back down the line to the sender...and the message ....we ain't taking that crap.
I believe that the 2 amendment gives us the rights to defend ourselves, problem is it doesn't define at what time or event that would be the breaking point for us to start shooting the messenger .
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Well, that doesn't qualify as plagiarism, I dunno about defamation of character...I dunno Grape. What would it qualify under?
I know in a few forums I moderate if it's done with humor that's permissible. If it's not done in humor it best be accidental or it's a ban-able offense.
I know in a few forums I moderate if it's done with humor that's permissible. If it's not done in humor it best be accidental or it's a ban-able offense.
davidmcbeth
Banned
We do have a rule against deliberate misquoting:
(16) NO FALSE ATTRIBUTIONS: Editing quoted posts by another member to make it appear as if they said something other than what they intended will NOT be tolerated!
In this case, I think it can be charged either to fat fingering or format error. Suspect the latter because when I tried to quote it, it only got worse.
KYGlockster
Activist Member
Don't cry? I'll get used to it? What are you talking about?
So, you want to demonize me for the actions of others? There is no guilt by association in a profession if you are a moral individual. I associated myself with the profession because I wanted to return it to a profession that is supposed to uphold and restore the peace. You and a few others here have a serious problem with stereotypes. I have yet to witness a single deprivation since I have been employed. If the day comes and I do witness a deprivation I will certainly not stand by and do nothing. Maybe you have stood by while others have done things they shouldn't and allowed it to happen. Is this why you think everybody else does so? Sorry, but this isn't in my constitution. If I witness immoral and unconstitutional acts I will let it be known. I have made a few enemies in the profession that believe I am anti-"cop" and I guess that is the case. We aren't cops, or at least we shouldn't be; we are peace officers. I really don't care what they think, and by making my thoughts known I have kept them from doing things they shouldn't be doing when I am around, or at least I like to think so. I believe I will eventually see these two men commit acts of deprivation, and when that happens I will act. Until then I will keep making my opinions known and keep trying to educate.
I'm not a cop as you have claimed either, I'm a peace officer.
davidmcbeth
Banned
Or do you mean "cover up" the records?
KBCraig
Regular Member
But, the state police stated they wouldn't be conducted an investigation, before the records were even sealed.
77zach
Regular Member
Lol, as if it mattered. The fox will be guarding the hen house.
bushwacker
Regular Member
That is the same mentality that blames the umpire (rule enforcer/policeman) for calling the base runner out when the player leaves the designated base path. The umpire did not create the rule.
The legislature makes the rules/laws and placed them in the cart/on the books and charges LEA/LEO with enforcing those laws, making them 2nd in the level of things. LEOs don't "put you in jail"; they perfect the charge that you have violated the legislature's generated laws. The courts determine if the evidence is sufficient to warrant punishment including possible jail time.
Accepted phrases, sayings, idioms and expressions in the English language.
Putting the cart before the horse reverses the accepted or logical order of things in which the thing that should come second is put first.
http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/put-the-cart-before-the-horse.html
If you don't like a law, change it the OCDO way: "Even if you feel that a law is unconstitutional we do not break it, we repeal it or defeat it in the courts."
Meanwhile, don't go off half cocked and shoot the messenger
guess I confused some folks here so here is the missing piece ....hope this doesn't cause more confusion
bushwacker
Regular Member
ok cops, peace officers , fuzz, leos, police ,jack booted thugs, political pigs or whatever you want to go with. lets just say the badge. doesn't matter if you are good badge or bad badge, still the fact remains that the badge is boo hooing about getting the guilty by association act by the public of which is unfortunate however, your profession started it to where as the citizen was and still is demonized for the action of others ,there is even a movie out about it http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0298354/ so deal with it and enjoy the movie...after all its not like your going thru mccarthysim.
I like you, so don't take this personally; but if you have a badge, you're a cop.