KYKevin
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Are there any gun bills waiting in the wings or prefiled for 2013 that we should be watching? I was looking around and did not see anything.
Are there any gun bills waiting in the wings or prefiled for 2013 that we should be watching? I was looking around and did not see anything.
I would love to see a Bill that CCW can carry on University campus. I know that is FAR from being passed, but Mr. Damron tried to get it run through last year, but was D.O.D.
I think that everyone's overlooking possibly the MOST IMPORTANT BILL that we, as Kentuckian's, need now more than ever! The Kentucky State Sovereignty Act! If this is not re-introduced then all other bills will all be for naught from here on out! Without our sovereignty from the federal government now, more than ever, you have nothing!
I think that everyone's overlooking possibly the MOST IMPORTANT BILL that we, as Kentuckian's, need now more than ever! The Kentucky State Sovereignty Act! If this is not re-introduced then all other bills will all be for naught from here on out! Without our sovereignty from the federal government now, more than ever, you have nothing!
Kentucky already has sovereignty, and it is called the Tenth Amendment. If the federal government tried to enforce some ridiculous legislation that violated KY law or the KY Constitution then a State law would not stop them from doing so. We need the federal government to go back where they should be, and leave the states alone. The states are the supreme authority anyways, and they always have been. Somehow along the way the federal government has forgot this.
Kentucky already has sovereignty, and it is called the Tenth Amendment. If the federal government tried to enforce some ridiculous legislation that violated KY law or the KY Constitution then a State law would not stop them from doing so. We need the federal government to go back where they should be, and leave the states alone. The states are the supreme authority anyways, and they always have been. Somehow along the way the federal government has forgot this.
I saw this come across my FaceVook page earlier today and my heart leapt with joy at the possibility!
Kentucky already has sovereignty, and it is called the Tenth Amendment. If the federal government tried to enforce some ridiculous legislation that violated KY law or the KY Constitution then a State law would not stop them from doing so. We need the federal government to go back where they should be, and leave the states alone. The states are the supreme authority anyways, and they always have been. Somehow along the way the federal government has forgot this.
If Kentucky has "sovereignty" then why is it that we're all freaking out and some of us are already getting punished, by way of losing hours, due to ObamaCare? If we have TRUE SOVEREIGNTY then all Kentucky has to do is inform the federal government, "We WILL NOT be taking part in our exercise of fiscal ruin and socialist decay! We WILL NOT take part in ObamaCare! END OF LINE"! I would nearly bet you if Kentucky notified the federal government of this, they'd be rolling of us!
All of the States need to TAKE BACK their powers that some have granted to the government and keep them with the States themselves!
The only thing that I find within the KRS that comforts me in these potentially troublesome times is KRS 237.104:
237.104 - Rights to acquire, carry, and use deadly weapons not to be impaired during disaster or emergency -- Seizure of deadly weapons during disaster or emergency prohibited -- Application of section.
(1) No person, unit of government, or governmental organization shall, during a period of disaster or emergency as specified in KRS Chapter 39A or at any other time, have the right to revoke, suspend, limit the use of, or otherwise impair the validity of the right of any person to purchase, transfer, loan, own, possess, carry, or use a firearm, firearm part, ammunition, ammunition component, or any deadly weapon or dangerous instrument.
(2) No person, unit of government, or governmental organization shall, during a period of disaster or emergency as specified in KRS Chapter 39A or at any other time, take, seize, confiscate, or impound a firearm, firearm part, ammunition, ammunition component, or any deadly weapon or dangerous instrument from any person.
(3) The provisions of this section shall not apply to the taking of an item specified in subsection (1) or (2) of this section from a person who is:
(a) Forbidden to possess a firearm pursuant to KRS 527.040;
(b) Forbidden to possess a firearm pursuant to federal law;
(c) Violating KRS 527.020;
(d) In possession of a stolen firearm;
(e) Using a firearm in the commission of a separate criminal offense; or
(f) Using a firearm or other weapon in the commission of an offense under KRS Chapter 150.
Effective: July 12, 2006
This seems to have been created and added into KRS after the Hurricane Katrina massacre's in New Orleans when LEO and possibly NG or Mili stripped to citizen's of their weapons. Thank God that Kentucky saw this and moved quickly on it! And this law may very well be the one that serves all of us the most, if something were to happen.
History: Created 2006 Ky. Acts ch. 240, sec. 7, effective July 12, 2006.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...ca-and-create-its-own-new-government/RskKYzB6
Like I said, the federal government has exceeded its Constitutional restraints, and destroyed state sovereignty. The states created the federal government, not the other way around. The states need to stand up for their sovereignty granted to them and by them in the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. Another law will not work. We already have the United States Constitution that says the states are the supreme authority, yet the federal government ignores that; what would a State law do?
I don't know of anything prefiled, but I have what I consider good information that Constitutional Carry and the Firearms Freedom Act will be back again this year. Maybe, we will have better luck with them this time around. It will be tough to get much done, because there will be only 60 days in this year's session. I have a surprise or two, but can't say anything about it until Jan. Sorry for the tease.
Any idea how the Constitutinal carry would work? I assume that we would no longer be required to have a licence to CC, but what about traveling to other states that require a licence to even OC or the GFSZ? In KY we would be good (other than in a GFSZ) without a licence but what if we wanted to have a licence anyhow? Could we or would licences be done away with all together?
Any idea how the Constitutinal carry would work? I assume that we would no longer be required to have a licence to CC, but what about traveling to other states that require a licence to even OC or the GFSZ? In KY we would be good (other than in a GFSZ) without a licence but what if we wanted to have a licence anyhow? Could we or would licences be done away with all together?
I think carry in colleges is more likely to come from the courts than the legislature, of course it would be open carry not concealed carry.I would love to see a Bill that CCW can carry on University campus. I know that is FAR from being passed, but Mr. Damron tried to get it run through last year, but was D.O.D.
I think carry in colleges is more likely to come from the courts than the legislature, of course it would be open carry not concealed carry.
I think if we had individuals willing to be tests cases we could have open carry on campuses within a couple of years, whereas it can take anywhere from 3-months to 16 months to pass a law and have it in effect, assuming the law would pass. There is no law permitting college's to regulate the open carrying of weapons, so it would take some action in the courts, probably ultimately ending up with the Kentucky Supreme Court. The legislature granted them the specific authority to regulate concealed weapons on their premises. I believe the justices would rule in favor, albeit reluctantly, of a student openly carrying a firearm. I don't think the legislature will force concealed carry until other states have blazed that path.Whether or not CC will ever be allowed (under law) on college campus is of course, yet to be seen. But I seriously doubt that IF it ever is, it will be OC! Yes, I know that OC is the primary form of legal carry in Kentucky but CC would of course be far less obvious and would therefore create far less of an issue, "Out of sight, out of mind" as the saying goes.
Granted, for those that have cared to look at those signs of college campus, most of you know that they are either out there or they're quoting laws that are not even related to the nature of the signs. Therefore, there are some folks that are actively carrying on campus. I say, "Carry On"!
I think if we had individuals willing to be tests cases we could have open carry on campuses within a couple of years, whereas it can take anywhere from 3-months to 16 months to pass a law and have it in effect, assuming the law would pass. There is no law permitting college's to regulate the open carrying of weapons, so it would take some action in the courts, probably ultimately ending up with the Kentucky Supreme Court. The legislature granted them the specific authority to regulate concealed weapons on their premises. I believe the justices would rule in favor, albeit reluctantly, of a student openly carrying a firearm. I don't think the legislature will force concealed carry until other states have blazed that path.
Whether or not CC will ever be allowed (under law) on college campus is of course, yet to be seen. But I seriously doubt that IF it ever is, it will be OC! Yes, I know that OC is the primary form of legal carry in Kentucky but CC would of course be far less obvious and would therefore create far less of an issue, "Out of sight, out of mind" as the saying goes.
Granted, for those that have cared to look at those signs of college campus, most of you know that they are either out there or they're quoting laws that are not even related to the nature of the signs. Therefore, there are some folks that are actively carrying on campus. I say, "Carry On"!