In America, talk turns to something unspoken for 150 years: Civil war

[OC for ME]

Last paragraph.

The latest warnings of civil war from diGenova drew an exasperated response from VoteVets, a liberal veterans advocacy group whose members have fought in actual civil wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Amazing we have to say this but: 1. We are NOT in civil war. 2. Do NOT buy guns (or any weapons) to use against your fellow Americans," Jon Soltz, the group's chairman, tweeted in response to diGenova. "Trust us, we have seen war."

In America, talk turns to something unspoken for 150 years: Civil war

At a moment when the country has never seemed angrier, two political commentators from opposite sides of the divide concurred last week on one point, nearly unthinkable until recently: The country is on the verge of "civil war." First came former U.S. attorney Joseph diGenova, a Fox News regular...

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I'm confident that Mr. Soltz has a firearm or two...just un case.

Trust a liberal..HAH!!

 

[eye95]

The nation is definitely polarizing as much as it did over slavery. However, it was disingenuous for the pro-slavery side to be the side of States’ Rights and Individual Liberty. The use of States’ Rights to justify slavery is what cost us the concept of States’ Rights.

These days, the pro-Liberty side is, at worst, encumbered by those who are pro-small-government, but not really pro-Liberty. That is right combined with almost right, instead of right combined with dead-wrong.

If civil war does come, it will be because the other side comes for the guns, shots will be fired, and sides will have to be chosen.

Our best shot at avoiding another “Shot Heard ‘round the World” is the Convention of States repairing the damage done to the Constitution.

 

[hammer6]

We aren't anywhere close to a civil war. We may be close to a government overthrow, but not a civil war. People generally love each other. There's a small minority that is causing ruckus throughout the country, but not large enough to cause the snowflakes to pick up arms.

 

[OC for ME]

Snowflake picking up arms...now that right there is funny, I don't care who you are.

 

[Doug_Nightmare]

“People generally love each other.” Now that right there is funny. Posted from near Charleston, SC.

John Wayne, Frank Capra, and C.S. Lewis—Haters All!

Mean People Suck."I first saw that bumper-sticker slogan almost 20 years ago, pinned to the office bulletin board at the newspaper where I worked. It struck me as a little strange, much like what Jon Stewart called a “moment of zen.” Isn’t it mean to

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[eye95]

An excellent read.

 

[JTHunter2]

Our best shot at avoiding another “Shot Heard ‘round the World” is the Convention of States repairing the damage done to the Constitution.

Would that not open the possibility of altering the BoR and possibly removing that "pesky" Second Amendment?

Hammer6 - I don't believe that part about "people loving each other". Most people are too wrapped up in their own lives to care about others until an "outside influence" rocks their world. As for "civil war" vs. "govt. overthrow", I don't believe we are close to either. However, that may change if they start coming to confiscate guns or other "personal property".

Doug, Eye is right. That is an interesting article. I can't remember the last time I have gone to a sit-down theater (indoors) to see a movie.

 

[Ghost1958]

Would that not open the possibility of altering the BoR and possibly removing that "pesky" Second Amendment?

Not really. It takes so many states to ratify anything coming out of a convention that realistically not a lot would be ratified.

But the fed fears a convention of states like a vampire fears the sun.
SCOTUS has been known to rule on cases in order to avoid provoking one.

If nothing else it would render the federal government power less and left to emerge with what little power the states allowed it.

It's the next to last option the founders left to the people to bring their gov under control if needed.

The BOR can be amended anyway without a convention of states if the feds try and enough states ratify it.

 

[eye95]

Would that not open the possibility of altering the BoR and possibly removing that "pesky" Second Amendment?
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As would any other method of amending the Constitution. The advantage of the COS is that it is called by the States, and Congress can do nothing to stop or control the process.

The COS only proposes amendments—just as Congress could, but won’t. Each amendment that the COS proposes would still have to be approved by a supermajority of the States. The 2A would remain intact.