I call into the Lars Larson show over "nitwits" remark.

[sudden valley gunner]

Believe it or not, I would like you opinion on if I made good arguments and sounded confident. It takes me awhile to work up the willingness to argue with a talk show host on air. So some feedback would be appreciated if it's not much trouble for you.

Like your speaking at the Capitol, you did pretty good. I agree with hhofent's assesment. This guy is a professional blowhard he does it for a living, it's hard to make great points when they don't want you too. Notice his other distraction that shows his anti liberty viewpoints by comparing it to gay folks.

I just had a listen and I think you did alright. It's hard to make a really good point and drive it home on a show like that, where the host has full lines and is trying to push calls through and switches topics quickly.
8/10 from the Iowa judges.

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[Jeff Hayes]

What about an independent?

Depends.

 

[Difdi]

I laugh at the thought that people think "moderate" is in between the R's and the D's.

If you view them on the traditional Conservative/Liberal axis, then moderate IS between them.

But the thing is, there's more than one axis in play. On the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis, most Republicans and Democrats are so far towards Authoritarian at the national level that they're not political rivals at all, but fellow travelers who agree on the goal if not every little detail.

Viewed that way, moderate is quite a bit further away from them than it would be on the Conservative/Liberal axis.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

If you view them on the traditional Conservative/Liberal axis, then moderate IS between them.

But the thing is, there's more than one axis in play. On the Authoritarian/Libertarian axis, most Republicans and Democrats are so far towards Authoritarian at the national level that they're not political rivals at all, but fellow travelers who agree on the goal if not every little detail.

Viewed that way, moderate is quite a bit further away from them than it would be on the Conservative/Liberal axis.

I think even on a lineal line, the only people who would consider themselves "moderates" between the R's and D's are people with a very very narrow focus. If we want to use a lineal line then liberty and freedom would be way to one side and the R's and D's way way to the the other side. A moderate would be more of a minarchist than the big government R's and D's.f

Historically the R's have their start as the party of big government, so when I look at it just because the D's decided to catch up to them and then pass them up in the last century it doesn't make moderate in the middle of them.

Interesting points about the different axis in play though, I spent some time trying to figure out a different way of describing it like a wheel with spokes but none of it really fit. I finally concluded that liberty can't be defined in a graph of any sort since we are all individuals and liberty is just leaving people alone to go about their own path.

 

[Bill45]

The Federal government is a criminal organization. Figuring the difference between the players is like looking for the good guys between the Genovese or Gambino families.

They will both make you an offer you can't refuse. Take all your money, leave you sleeping with a bloody horse head and send your children to die in their foreign (gang) wars.

 

[sudden valley gunner]

The Federal government is a criminal organization. Figuring the difference between the players is like looking for the good guys between the Genovese or Gambino families.

They will both make you an offer you can't refuse. Take all your money, leave you sleeping with a bloody horse head and send your children to die in their foreign (gang) wars.

+1

 

[cpgrad08]

You did a good job on the call on Erik.

 

[CitizenJohn]

Believe it or not, I would like you opinion on if I made good arguments and sounded confident. It takes me awhile to work up the willingness to argue with a talk show host on air. So some feedback would be appreciated if it's not much trouble for you.

I agree with the other posters that make the point concerning how hard it is to make a point on the LL show. I thought you did a good job with what LL allowed you to say and once he started with the "you can agree with me that..." line, he was just deflecting in order to take both sides.

If a person open carries a hand gun, they WILL be in the face of liberals and they (the anti-gun liberals) and folks like LL will classify "some of them" (??) as nitwits (a stupid, incompetent person). EVEN IF a person is making a political statement (how can you tell?), SO WHAT? If establishments decide to discourage handguns, LL shouldn't blame it on the handgun carrier. That's called redirecting.

I remember listening to LL state once that he "would prefer to open carry." I guess he forgot that.

I called LL once concerning a Clark County Courthouse weapon check issue and directly asked how his experience with checking his weapon when entering the court house went and he stated that he "just left it in his car to avoid the hassle." Interesting, no?

Comparing open carry issues to breast feeding and public display of affection surprised me though. Not a typical LL comment.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

I agree with the other posters that make the point concerning how hard it is to make a point on the LL show. I thought you did a good job with what LL allowed you to say and once he started with the "you can agree with me that..." line, he was just deflecting in order to take both sides.

If a person open carries a hand gun, they WILL be in the face of liberals and they (the anti-gun liberals) and folks like LL will classify "some of them" (??) as nitwits (a stupid, incompetent person). EVEN IF a person is making a political statement (how can you tell?), SO WHAT? If establishments decide to discourage handguns, LL shouldn't blame it on the handgun carrier. That's called redirecting.

I remember listening to LL state once that he "would prefer to open carry." I guess he forgot that.

I called LL once concerning a Clark County Courthouse weapon check issue and directly asked how his experience with checking his weapon when entering the court house went and he stated that he "just left it in his car to avoid the hassle." Interesting, no?

Comparing open carry issues to breast feeding and public display of affection surprised me though. Not a typical LL comment.

I'm surprised he goes to to Clark County Courthouse... it seems to me WA is just the dot on the map he sleeps at during the night, I've never seen him in Olympia, he almost never discusses WA politics on the show unless they're doing something smarter then Oregon (which admittedly we do just about everything better then Oregon)

I certainly agree there are some people who take OC a little far, and sometimes test boundaries in silly ways.... but on the other hand I believe alot of those people are doing something legal and I don't believe in making OC more restricted or illegal.