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I am so heated

JC_Biggs

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ANOTHER NIGHT with no liberties.. WHAT IN THE %*^*^ gives the government to tell me, a grown @^& tax paying citizen that i have to be in my house by 9pm... and that i cant leave until 5... OMG.. i dont care if the world is on fire and china is storming the beaches, in my opinion GOVERNMENT AT NO LEVEL has the right to tell me where i can and cant travel.. ....im so pissed. i just left the sheriffs office and i have some strong words for my state rep monday. (who also happens to be a strong libertarian)

anyways, whats the deal with carry right now, cuz im bout to go try to get arrested just so i can take my case to court and wondering if i should take my side arm in the trunk or something.
 

chiefjason

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The Governor exempted carry.

Section 7.
This order is adopted pursuant to my powers under Article 1 of Chapter 166A of the General Statutes and under Article 36A of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes. It does not trigger the limitations on weapons in G.S. § 14-288.7 or impose any limitation on the consumption, transportation, sale or purchase of alcoholic beverages.


Can't tell you what the local Gov's did. They can restrict it if they want to as well.
 

JC_Biggs

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The Governor exempted carry.

Section 7.
This order is adopted pursuant to my powers under Article 1 of Chapter 166A of the General Statutes and under Article 36A of Chapter 14 of the General Statutes. It does not trigger the limitations on weapons in G.S. § 14-288.7 or impose any limitation on the consumption, transportation, sale or purchase of alcoholic beverages.


Can't tell you what the local Gov's did. They can restrict it if they want to as well.

wouldnt state law trump that in the court?? Thanks for posting that. i just saw the link to that a few minutes ago in the other thread.
 

chiefjason

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wouldnt state law trump that in the court?? Thanks for posting that. i just saw the link to that a few minutes ago in the other thread.

Trump local law? From the looks of it, no. Local authorities actually seem to have more authority in SOE's. And in reality, that's the way it should be. The local Gov should be the one's calling something like this. Instead of Raleigh telling Sylva what to do in an SOE. Might want to check these out.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-288.12.html


http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_14/GS_14-288.13.html
 

WTFOVER

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People like to complain about curfews but if the tables are turned and people are out and taking advantage of the situation to break into houses and buildings then you all would be complaining the law wasn't doing anything to protect those property's.
 
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mattwestm

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Honestly, the curfews don't bother me during a major storm. I went out last evening at about 6PM to get out of the apartment for a bit. There were a few power lines knocked down and major flooding. It would near impossible to drive on the roads during the night time in those conditions. The curfews keep people safe. Without the curfews, the people who were boogie-boarding in tainted storm waters would be the ones out driving at midnight with non-functioning traffic lights and flooded streets.
 

rscottie

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Honestly, the curfews don't bother me during a major storm. I went out last evening at about 6PM to get out of the apartment for a bit. There were a few power lines knocked down and major flooding. It would near impossible to drive on the roads during the night time in those conditions. The curfews keep people safe. Without the curfews, the people who were boogie-boarding in tainted storm waters would be the ones out driving at midnight with non-functioning traffic lights and flooded streets.

I will defer to Benjamin Franklin:

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"
 

rscottie

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People like to complain about curfews but if the tables are turned and people are out and taking advantage of the situation to break into houses and buildings then you all would be complaining the law wasn't doing anything to protect those property's.

Actually I would prefer to be allowed to go back in or not to leave in the first place so that I could protect my own stuff.
 
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mattwestm

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I will defer to Benjamin Franklin:

"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety"

I normally do not agree with curfews (for underage people, etc.), however, these curfews would not be necessary if they were sure that people would stay home. Unfortunately, there are stupid people out there. What happens if someone runs over a live electric line and requires medical attention? I really don't think paramedics are going to be wanting to be driving in poor road conditions, only because someone was stupid enough to venture out.
 

rscottie

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I normally do not agree with curfews (for underage people, etc.), however, these curfews would not be necessary if they were sure that people would stay home. Unfortunately, there are stupid people out there. What happens if someone runs over a live electric line and requires medical attention? I really don't think paramedics are going to be wanting to be driving in poor road conditions, only because someone was stupid enough to venture out.

Not to be overly simplistic, but if they come in to contact with a live power line, they will probably die.

I am responsible for my safety. I am responsible for my life. I do not need the government telling me that I cannot leave my home or that I have to leave my home because they feel they know best.

The government just needs to step aside, maybe tell everyone that they recommend evacuation but will not make you leave. But, if you stay, do not expect the cavalry coming to your rescue. You are on your own.
 

JC_Biggs

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What are they gonna do to you if they find you out after 9p??? Order you back to your room :lol:

um how about ARREST YOU.. A couple of my freinds were almost arrested, MILTARY MEMBERS as a matter of fact, because they were out. they came to my house to shower since they had no power.. when they got pulled over, she was like, I havent done anything illegal so i dont see why your questioning me. and the cop being a dick put her her in the car. she text me during this, and when she didnt text back i called the sheriff. It is BS.

the storm was over. there is no need for a curfew. period. imo there shouldnt of been one in the first place even during the storm. if you drive over a live power line, thats your own damn fault. but if i decide to go take a shower cuz i dont have water.. its none of anyones business but mine.
 

Chief1297

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Seems to me that these curfews go against nature. Nature has a natural selection process which tends to thin out the "stupid" gene from a species. When government interferes with that process, the "stupid" gene is allowed to procreate and we end up with an increase in stupid people. This is evident in multiple ways. You see people out surfing during a hurricane. You see people out touching or getting near downed power lines. You can tell that government has interfered more and more by the warning labels we see on our products like Dont drink bleach or keep plastic bags away from children. One of our main problems of today is, stupid people are allowed to sue anything or anyone that fails to keep them safe. I know a zoo would be sued if someone stuck their arm in a tiger's cage and was mauled so I guess you really cant blame government from trying to keep from getting sued. We really need to get back to nature and let those with the gene in question suffer the consequences of their actions but I dont think our legal departments are going to let up anytime soon.
 

MKEgal

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mattwestm said:
curfews keep people safe.
:banghead:
Laws do NOT keep people safe.
Citizens voluntarily following laws tend to come to (or cause) less harm.

A law that says "don't drink alcohol & drive a car" doesn't stop people from drinking alcohol & driving a car.
A law that says "don't kill unless it's to save your own life" doesn't stop people from killing over a look or an electronic game.
A law that says "stay in your home from 9p-6a" doesn't stop people from going out & doing dumb stuff.
 
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