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How long did you wait, or have been waiting?

motoxmann

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in reply to Rich and brk: it's my understanding that if a person knows they have something on their record for criminal and/or MV, they need to pay to get their own personal histories so the info on the appeal form is accurate. thats where my cost factor is coming into play. I was arrested once like 10 years ago, but it was completely dismissed, so it didnt need to be mentioned in my application, but it would need to be mentioned if I appeal. and I've had 2 or 3 speeding tickets in the last 10 years as well, dates and towns I completely forget though.

If I ever say something that is incorrect, by all means correct me lol, I dont want to spread false information, and I dont take offense by it at all. we're all here to learn or to teach those that want to learn. I'm definitely here to learn, and if I can help out as well I will :)

So I called Captain Lozefski of the MPD and left a message with him in regards to the status of my application. So hopefully he calls me back with something he can tell me. I just am blown away by how other towns do them so quickly. Its mind boggling!!!:confused: I will keep everyone updated with any info I get!

when anyone from MPD calls my cell, it shows up as 000-000-0000 on my caller ID, so keep an eye out for that. shouldnt take long for him to return the call.
on a side note, I met a few MPD detectives the other day for a work related matter, and they were very good guys. I dont know much about MPD employees, but these guys were a positive change of pace, I wish more officers/detectives were like them :)
 

brk913

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100% incorrect. You need to read the erasure statute. A dismissed charge never happened, you can testify under oath to it never happening.

Yup, what he said....nolles and dismissals did not happen at all....not to mention the State has all conviction records going back for the last 9 years available online for free (Check the Judicial Website)..
 

Hellofamason85

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So I was able to get a hold of Captain Lozefski from the MPD last night. He answered all of my questions and seemed to be a very down to earth guy. He checked on the desk of whoever goes over the applications before he signs them and found mine. He put my file on top so it will apparently be finished today! He then told me that he is waiting for SPBI to send back my state background check. So who knows when that will be.

I then told him of my exp. with the SPBI. The gentleman who answered the phone from the SPBI said he can't give me that information because even though I may say my name is Ethan........... I may really not be who I say I am. :shocker: So I asked if he would take my social as a form of I.D. He then proceeded to tell me I could have found that somewhere.

Now let me just say this. That is the most ridiculous thing I think I may have ever heard in my entire life. Now it took me until this morning for what he said to actually sink in. So I am going to give them one more week until I file appeal. And for the record I hope no one goes through the same exp I did. I will keep everyone posted by the way.:lol:
 

Rich B

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He then told me that he is waiting for SPBI to send back my state background check.

Unacceptable. He has '1 week' to issue your permit once he receives the national background check.

Sec. 29-29. Information concerning criminal records of applicants for permits. (a) No temporary state permit for carrying any pistol or revolver shall be issued under the provisions of section 29-28 unless the applicant for such permit gives to the local authority, upon its request, full information concerning the applicant's criminal record. The local authority shall require the applicant to submit to state and national criminal history records checks. The local authority shall take a full description of such applicant and make an investigation concerning the applicant's suitability to carry any such weapons.

(b) The local authority shall take the fingerprints of such applicant or conduct any other method of positive identification required by the State Police Bureau of Identification or the Federal Bureau of Investigation, unless the local authority determines that the fingerprints of such applicant have been previously taken and the applicant's identity established, and such applicant presents identification that the local authority verifies as valid. The local authority shall record the date the fingerprints were taken in the applicant's file and, within five business days of such date, shall forward such fingerprints or other positive identifying information to the State Police Bureau of Identification which shall conduct criminal history records checks in accordance with section 29-17a.

(c) The local authority may, in its discretion, issue a temporary state permit before a national criminal history records check relative to such applicant's record has been received. Upon receipt of the results of such national criminal history records check, the commissioner shall send a copy of the results of such national criminal history records check to the local authority, which shall inform the applicant and render a decision on the application within one week of the receipt of such results. If such results have not been received within eight weeks after a sufficient application for a permit has been made, the local authority shall inform the applicant of such delay, in writing. No temporary state permit shall be issued if the local authority has reason to believe the applicant has ever been convicted of a felony, or that any other condition exists for which the issuance of a permit for possession of a pistol or revolver is prohibited under state or federal law.

(d) The commissioner may investigate any applicant for a state permit and shall investigate each applicant for renewal of a state permit to ensure that such applicant is eligible under state law for such permit or for renewal of such permit.

(e) No state permit may be issued unless either the local authority or the commissioner has received the results of the national criminal history records check.

The law does not allow for the PD to wait for the state records check to be returned.
 
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motoxmann

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update:
called FBI again this morning and they finally have a record for me:

February 14th: submit app and fingerprints and interview with Ofc Bill Warner at Middletown PD.
February 16th: fingerprints were sent to SPBI
March 15th: FBI CJIS received prints from DPS. processed and returned to DPS same day.

this means DPS sat on my file for 4 weeks before even sending to the FBI. who knows how long it'll be before they send it back to Middletown PD now.
 

Rich B

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update:
called FBI again this morning and they finally have a record for me:

February 14th: submit app and fingerprints and interview with Ofc Bill Warner at Middletown PD.
February 16th: fingerprints were sent to SPBI
March 15th: FBI CJIS received prints from DPS. processed and returned to DPS same day.

this means DPS sat on my file for 4 weeks before even sending to the FBI. who knows how long it'll be before they send it back to Middletown PD now.

Call SPBI and ask them if your national background check has been returned to the PD, if so, what date.

You paid for the background checks, you are their customer. They have an obligation to tell you.

SPBI does not need to wait until the State records check is complete to send the FBI check to the PD, and they should not be.
 

Hellofamason85

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So I spoke to a woman at SPBI. She asked me for my name and birthdate. She came back with good news. My background checks were processed and returned to my PD on March 4th. So my PD has them and isn't doing a damn thing. Pretty wild:eek:
 

Rich B

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So I spoke to a woman at SPBI. She asked me for my name and birthdate. She came back with good news. My background checks were processed and returned to my PD on March 4th. So my PD has them and isn't doing a damn thing. Pretty wild:eek:

If they were returned to the PD March 4th, March 12th you should have appealed. March 12th should be your effective date of administrative denial. If you don't file an appeal within 90 days, you could lose your right to appeal.

http://www.ct.gov/bfpe/cwp/view.asp?a=1252&Q=254192&bfpeNav=|
 
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IH8SPM

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This is great news! Im at 6.5 today in west haven.
I know some will disagree but they are at least meeting the max time in the statue.
 

dmjs

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It better than nothing Rich. Sometime when you see light at the end of the tunnel it is a happy feeling.
 
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motoxmann

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6 weeks and 3 days for me today, and today I came home from work to find a letter of denial in the mail from Middletown PD :(

Apparently I was arrested when I was 17 (13 years ago) for doing doughnuts in a farmers field, and plead guilty and paid the fine. I completely forgot about this, and didnt even realise I was actually arrested because I drove my own car to the police station, they printed me and handed me a ticket, and sent me on my way. And I was young and dumb and probably wasnt listening very well for if they even mentioned if I was considered being arrested or not.
my pistol permit app was denied because I checked NO for have I ever been arrested, which is obviously considered false information.

time for me to start the appeal process :((

for the experienced members on here, do you think it would be in my best interest to simply reapply and put what I know now to be the correct info? or actually appeal? I'm preferring whichever will take less time, if that matters on your suggestion
 
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brk913

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for the experienced members on here, do you think it would be in my best interest to simply reapply and put what I know now to be the correct info? or actually appeal? I'm preferring whichever will take less time, if that matters on your suggestion

Why not do both?
 
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