DooFster
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I heard from a co-worker that LVMPD is overhauling and taking over the NLVPD command because of budget problems... Is this true?
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Heard A Rumor... True or False?
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usmcmustang
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DooFster
Regular Member
Does this mean that the stupid city law will be thrown out and also have less chance of arrest?
usmcmustang
Regular Member
Don't think so... North Las Vegas and all its city ordinances will continue to exist... just might have another/different "agency" enforcing the "stupid city law.""
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DooFster
Regular Member
Makes sense... Will it be easier though for us to carry in NLV?
usmcmustang
Regular Member
I haven't found it "difficult" to OC in NLV. I do ride by motorcycle there while OCing and NLVPD doesn't seem to notice or care. However, when OCing in my car and find myself having to go through that city somewhere, it's always in the back of my mind that if I get stopped for something, I'm probably in deep doo doo.
DooFster
Regular Member
Let's just hope the law gets changed... That's all I'm saying...
Merlin
Regular Member
Not necessarily. If NLV goes full-on bankrupt, the area could revert back to the County, right? If City of NLV is insolvent, it can no longer exist, and becomes unincorporated Clark County, I think. Anyone with more clue than me feel free to chime in here, just spitballing.
DooFster
Regular Member
I was thinking with Metro in charge, things will be different.
The Big Guy
Regular Member
I read some time ago that the State of NV was pondering taking over NLV. I would assume that if the city was taken over, they would become unincorporated. I would think that their laws would go away.
Just heard on the radio that the Sheriff has decided he does not want to do it, so it isn't going to happen.
TBG
Just heard on the radio that the Sheriff has decided he does not want to do it, so it isn't going to happen.
TBG
usmcmustang
Regular Member
As you say... "if the city was taken over" by the State due to insolvency, like you I believe it then "would become unincorporated." If that were the case, then the Sheriff would have no option but to have it within his jurisdiction as an unincorporated part of Clark County. I also would assume that any "City of North Las Vegas" ordinances/codes would be defunct.
DVC
Regular Member
Actually, there are two possibilities -- one that the SO takes over law enforcement duties of an incorporated municipality, the other that the town become unincorporated.
If the town remains incorporated, the laws stay in effect. If they go to unincorporated status, there is no town, thus the laws of the former town are vacated -- they no longer exist.
The Sheriff can say that he doesn't want to do it, but it's not his call (not directly, anyhow -- the county may or may not pay attention). The county may refuse to provide services to an incorporated city, but if they unincorporate, the question becomes moot.
Also consider that if the county chooses to provide services to an incorporated town, the SO may have different priorities for laws to be enforced, and the city will no longer have direct control. That may or may not be a good thing.
usmcmustang
Regular Member
[FONT="]North Las Vegas Municipal Ordinance 9.32.080 – possession of a dangerous or deadly weapon in vehicle.
And... North Las Vegas is under the "assumption" that their ordinance was somehow "grandfathered," regardless of NRS 268.418.1 because it was in effect prior to June 13, 1989. Evidently the Nevada AG is in "support" of this "assumption" as are the city fathers.[/FONT]
So, all those people who pass through NLV to get to CCSR are at risk of arrest?
Has anyone been convicted of violating NLV 9.32.080 while NOT causing other trouble?
mbogo
usmcmustang
Regular Member
So, all those people who pass through NLV to get to CCSR are at risk of arrest?
Has anyone been convicted of violating NLV 9.32.080 while NOT causing other trouble?
mbogo
Concealed carrying in a vehicle in North Las Vegas is "considered" within the law as long as one is CCW. Their City Ordinance with respect to defining what a "dangerous weapon" IS, disqualifies someone CCWing as violating the City Ordinance of possessing a firearm in a vehicle: "...[FONT="]“The term ‘dangerous or deadly weapons’ includes… any firearm other than (a) one carried pursuant to a valid permit, issued by a duly authorized government authority[/FONT]..." That's from North Las Vegas Municipal Ordinance 9.32.040. The "problem" comes when one is OCing and is further "complicated" if one is OCing and does NOT have a CCW. The North Las Vegas Police Department does not "like" that scenario and will arrest if they stop someone doing just that.
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My son (who OC's all the time but has no CCW permit), was stoped in NLV for a minor traffic violation and before he went to reach for his DL, Reg, Ins, he advised the cop that he was open carrying (had to reach near his firearm to get the documents and didn't want the cop to think he was "going for a gun"). Well, when he advised the cop of his open carrying, cop immediately called for backup, arrested my son, and impounded his car, and took my son to jail... for violating NLV Municipal Ordinance 9.32.080 - dangerous or deadly weapon in vehicle.
My son plead not guilty to the weapons charge in NLV Muni Court... and the charge was dismissed... so much for "challenging" the law. And... that's the problem - one WILL be arrested and jailed by the NLV cops for violation the City Ordinance but there will never be a "challenge" allowed in their kangaroo, non-record muni court.
All of this is posted in some detail elsewhere on this forum if anyone is interested.[/FONT] There's a couple of threads - "Vehicle OC in North Las Vegas?" and "My Son Was Arrested in North Las Vegas."
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[FONT="]Vehicle OC in North Las Vegas?[/FONT]
[h=1]My Son Was Arrested in North Las Vegas[/h]
jdholmes
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I actually heard them talking on the radio about this last week and advising if you are traveling through North Las Vegas that you ensure the firearm is on you and not in a glove hoax or anywhere else but your body and as long as it was that you would be fine.
Can't remember who it was - a radio host and some lawyer.
Can't remember who it was - a radio host and some lawyer.
DooFster
Regular Member
If you're able to somehow find that it'd be awesome!!
OC-moto450r
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NLV Mayor says NO
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usmcmustang
Regular Member
That's certainly not the way they "enforced" their ordinance in my son's case. The motor cop who stopped him went "nuts" when my son told him he was open carrying and it resulted in my son's arrest, impound of his car, and 24 hours in the cross bar hotel. That was last May. If "things" have changed since then (my son plead not guilty to the weapon's charge and upon presenting a compelling brief to the court, the prosecution requested dismissal of the charge... and so it was), I haven't heard.