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Has anyone been pushed to change religions while in the military

WalkingWolf

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How is it that religious proselytizers are not guilty of pushing dogma down anyone's throat, but when a nontheist merely responds to their claims, that person is guilty of pushing dogma down other people's throats?

It seems that you think that the only acceptable course of action for non-Christians when Christians initiate a conversation with them and make their faith-based claims is to fall on their knees and immediately convert, because you clearly interpret anything other than that as the party that was approached for evangelizing as being the bully, and not vice versa. WTF?!?

People exercising their faith is not initiating a conversation. Your claim is delusional. And again I have made no faith based claims, stop with the outright LYING.
 

minarchist

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People exercising their faith is not initiating a conversation. Your claim is delusional. And again I have made no faith based claims, stop with the outright LYING.

You have not observed every moment of my life. I have engaged in many religious discussions that were initiated by religious zealots. You are telling me that my rebuttal to the claims made during conversations that they started makes me a bad guy.

So yeah, get f--ked.
 

WalkingWolf

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You have not observed every moment of my life. I have engaged in many religious discussions that were initiated by religious zealots. You are telling me that my rebuttal to the claims made during conversations that they started makes me a bad guy.

So yeah, get f--ked.

Nor do I want to or care. Your life is YOUR problem not mine, and has absolutely nothing to do with the good members of this fora.
 

minarchist

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Nor do I want to or care. Your life is YOUR problem not mine, and has absolutely nothing to do with the good members of this fora.

I'm still waiting for you to criticize religious people who agressively evangelize without invitation. Why do you only care when non-religious people state their thoughts?
 

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I'm still waiting for you to criticize religious people who agressively evangelize without invitation. Why do you only care when non-religious people state their thoughts?

I am still waiting for you to stop trying to control others. My criticizing of you has nothing to do with religion. Your problems have nothing to do with religion or others.
 

minarchist

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I am still waiting for you to stop trying to control others. My criticizing of you has nothing to do with religion. Your problems have nothing to do with religion or others.

In mutually consensual discussions between the religious and the non-religious, your condemnation of the non-religious for merely stating their position, coupled with your steadfast refusal to condemn the religious for stating their position, shows that you are the control freak, in that you clearly want the religious to be free to say what they want and the non-religious to not be free to say what they want (why else would you criticize the non-religious if you didn't want them to just shut up and listen to the evangelizing without opposition?). You are projecting your own intolerance and disdain for true liberty, rooted in the barbarity of less free and less enlightened times, onto me.
 

marshaul

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There is ample evidence that david.ross is correct. Aside from mere anecdotal evidence relating to how numerous extra-marital/relationship affairs are, there is a lot of peer-reviewed research that shows that we are innately f--k machines that love lots of different partners.

I don't think you got my post. I wasn't referring to anything about the human condition. I was referring to his comments on religion. He seemed to imagine a redeeming characteristic (if you want to call it that) where none exists.

There is ample evidence that people use religion to justify anything and everything under the sun, and that it is incorrect to assign credit to religion for limiting, in this case, polygamous relations. There are plenty of examples of societies where monogamy is considered "normal" for very practical (i.e. non-spiritual) reasons, and there are as well examples (Mormons being the familiar case to Americans) of spiritual justifications for polygamy in societies with an overwhelming preference for monogamy (which preference exists independent of religious belief).

Individuals aren't inherently monogamous, but that tendency in some folks to tell their neighbor what to do is (evolutionary biology 101: it's good to have as many mates as possible for yourself, but one is more than adequate for your neighbor). And as such people have a disproportionate influence (normal people simply *don't care* what their neighbor does too much to get worked up one way or the other), a majority of societies are predominantly monogamous.

If you think religion is the (or even a) common denominator amongst monogamous societies, you aren't looking very closely.
 
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