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Grandmother dies trying to stop sword fight

PT111

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Maybe it was OC of swords that led to this but dang, killing your grandmother. They need to put both of them in a room and let them finish it off until one kills the other then shoot the winner.

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INDIANAPOLIS - A 77-year-old woman who tried to break up a heated sword fight between her grandson and brother-in-law died, and both men were hospitalized with stab wounds, police said Thursday.

Franziska Stegbauer was stabbed during the fight and investigators were trying to determine whether she died from those wounds or a heart attack.

Police placed her grandson, 39-year-old Chris Rondeau, under arrest on a preliminary charge of attempted murder. Stegbauer's brother-in-law, 69-year-old Adolf Stegbauer, suffered several serious stab wounds, police said.



"We're unsure yet who started this fight, how the swordplay got involved," police Sgt. Matthew Mount said. "We're not sure who it was who stabbed the woman. We'll have to do some testing on the swords and figure out who had which sword, whose blood is on which sword."
An autopsy was scheduled for Franziska Stegbauer on Thursday.

She was not breathing when officers arrived about 1 a.m. at the home on the city's northwest side and she was later pronounced dead at a hospital, police said.

Adolf Stegbauer was listed in critical condition at Wishard Hospital, a spokesman said. Rondeau's condition was not immediately known.
 

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Some points:

1. .'Adolf'. mean wolf-like in German; this does not necessarily make him a KKK wannabe.

2. Had the Grandmother held an M1 carbine on them,she could have stopped the situation until the police came.

I reserve further judgement until all the facts are known.
 

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THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE ! ! !

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Mini14 wrote:
Some points:

1. .'Adolf'. mean wolf-like in German; this does not necessarily make him a KKK wannabe.

2. Had the Grandmother held an M1 carbine on them,she could have stopped the situation until the police came.

I reserve further judgement until all the facts are known.

WTF? :question:

1. Adolf (in the story) is 69 years old. How could somebody born in 1940 be considered a "KKK wannabe"?

2. Shewas not Clint Eastwood.

3. What do you mean YOU reserve further judgement?
 

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SGT Jensen wrote:
Mini14 wrote:
Some points:

1. .'Adolf'. mean wolf-like in German; this does not necessarily make him a KKK wannabe.

2. Had the Grandmother held an M1 carbine on them,she could have stopped the situation until the police came.

I reserve further judgement until all the facts are known.
WTF? :question:

1. Adolf (in the story) is 69 years old. How could somebody born in 1940 be considered a "KKK wannabe"?
Some people think .'Adolf'.shoulder be banned, because of Germany's WWII Leader.

2. Shewas not Clint Eastwood.
Understandably! Most people can handle an M1 carbine(not a shotgun. kicks too much for elderly). I was thinking Granny holding them at carbine point until the police arrived.

3. What do you mean YOU reserve further judgement?
Flying off the handle is I learned not to do, a number of years ago; I wasn't there, I'm waiting until the aftermath is done. This is opinion-forming wise.
Sgt Jensen? What branch of the police or the military were you in, bud?
 

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Mini14 wrote:
Some people think .'Adolf'.shoulder be banned, because of Germany's WWII Leader.

1. Still has nothing to do with any part of the story.
2. So even folks born during a time period before the man was thought as evil should just give up their name? I wouldn't
3. I could care less if some one was named Adolf, whether they were named 70 years ago, or today. A name is a name, they don't always have to mean anything.
 

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Aran wrote:
I fully support the right of two men to duel.

1. Do you support them having the right to stab their Grandmother if she gets in the way? :question:

2. When the #### did anyone mention the KKK in this?

3. My father's name was Adolphus. My Great-Grandfather's name was Adolphus. My brother's name is Adolphus and if I had a son his name might be Adolphus. Damn if I will let some whatever you want to call him dictate what name I can use.
 

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Um. . . I think people should be able to duel, why the hell not?!

And, not to be cold, but who the hell tries to stop a sword fight without a sword or a gun?
 

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Mini14 wrote:
SGT Jensen wrote:
Mini14 wrote:
Some points:

1. .'Adolf'. mean wolf-like in German; this does not necessarily make him a KKK wannabe.

2. Had the Grandmother held an M1 carbine on them,she could have stopped the situation until the police came.

I reserve further judgement until all the facts are known.
WTF? :question:

1. Adolf (in the story) is 69 years old. How could somebody born in 1940 be considered a "KKK wannabe"?
Some people think .'Adolf'.shoulder be banned, because of Germany's WWII Leader. I for onedonot think a name should be at the whim of society, we are supposed to be a constitutional republic.

2. Shewas not Clint Eastwood. I would much rather have Grandma and everybody else alive and unharmed.
Understandably! Most people can handle an M1 carbine(not a shotgun, kicks too much for elderly). I was thinking Granny holding them at carbine point until the police arrived.

3. What do you mean YOU reserve further judgement?
Flying off the handle is I learned not to do, a number of years ago; I wasn't there, I'm waiting until the aftermath is done. This is opinion-forming wise.
Sgt Jensen? What branch of the police or the military were you in, bud?
I'm nuts over tanks, bud.
I'm your friend, Sgt. Jensen, we have too much in common tobe enemies.
 
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