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Federal Laws. Anyone Aware of These Sweet Nuggets?

neuroblades

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I just ran across this and figured you guys might be interested to read about this.

I was surfing the USA Carry (Concealed Carry site) and followed a link: http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/site/node/8639

Scrolling about 1/4 of the way down the page somone posted the following federal laws:


"No state shall convert a liberty to a privilege, license it, and charge a fee therefor.- Murdock vs Pennsylvania 319 US 105

...If the state converts a right into a privelege, the citizen can ignore the license and fee and engage in the right... with impunity.
- Shuttleworth vs City of Birmingham, Alabama 317 US 262

Where rights secured by the Constitution are involved, there can be no legislation which would abrogate them.
- Miranda vs Arizona 384 US 436

An unconstitutional act is not law; it confers no rights; it imposes no duties; affords no protection; it creates no office; it is in legal contemplation as though it had never been passed.
- Norton vs Shelby County 118 US 425"


Anyone one else aware of these pearls of wisdom?

SOURCE: http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/site/node/8639
 

Citizen

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Well, yes.

But, they're a like other politician promises. They sound good, but the writer already has his trickery figured out. With regard to guns, theyl just claim this or that aspect of gun ownership is not really a right and is subject to "reasonable" regulation.
 

tyc

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Two weeks ago I used Norton vs Shelby County 118 US 425 in an on-going action of my own.

In the eyes of the law, when it comes to what is known as a "Civil Action" you do NOT have to be an attorney, you can elect to act on your own behalf. You can go into the appropriate court, in a civil action, on your own behalf, you can be what is known as a Pro Se.

With the above said and in mind, if you think those "judicial pearls" are worth noting, make no mistake, there are literally thousands more like that out there, just waiting for you to discover them and use them appropriately in your own legal behalf, when and if needed. There have been and there are good judges out there, some truly exceptional but most are not but then the same can be said of those in the carpenter, the plumbing and the pizza making trades. Not all are good at their chosen profession and some are outright bad at it but there are some some (carpenters, plumbers, pizza makers and judges) who should have statues made in their honor.

With your computer skills you may find it interesting and educational to start a collection of these "judical "pearls" as not only are they worth knowing ("mind candy") but they could in fact come in very handy some day.

tyc
 
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rotorhead

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Of course you can but why would you?

tyc

Not saying anyone should, just saying they could. You specified that in a "civil action", one could represent him/herself. I was just saying that they can do it in criminal courts, too.
 

hermannr

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While it is legal for you to defend yourself in a criminal action, and you may even win your own case if you study hard and keep a very level head....however...

It is commonly said: "he who defends himself has a fool for an attorney" The same statement is made for a doctor and an illness.

Why? Because another person can look at the case with impartial eyes. To argue a case properly you really need to know pretty much what the opposition is going to say, before they say it. That way you can gear your arguments to nulify their points before they are even presented, putting them on the defensive.
 

tyc

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Somebody with a good understanding of legalese really ought to collect these nuggets and publish them is some central repository for humanity's benefit.

It's already been done, many times. For starters, use your computer and start searching what are known as "PRO SE" sites.

tyc
 
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