D.C. announces intent to make permitting system “as restrictive as possible”

[SteveInCO]

Okay, guys, laugh all you want.

Fact of the matter is, DC had, de facto, NO carry whatsoever.

Soon it will have a restrictive may issue system. That's absolutely fecally bad... but it beats what they had before.

YES it's a slow process. But it IS a process and it is movement in the right direction. Walking into THAT environment--hoplophobe central--and demanding immediate constitutional carry will get you absolutely nowhere. Yet that is what some here appear to think is the ONLY option.

 

[hammer6]

Okay, guys, laugh all you want.

Fact of the matter is, DC had, de facto, NO carry whatsoever.

Soon it will have a restrictive may issue system. That's absolutely fecally bad... but it beats what they had before.

YES it's a slow process. But it IS a process and it is movement in the right direction. Walking into THAT environment--hoplophobe central--and demanding immediate constitutional carry will get you absolutely nowhere. Yet that is what some here appear to think is the ONLY option.

no.
judge's ruling said shall issue.
and non-residents' permits recognized.


you're welcome.

 

[swinokur]

No. The Judge's ruling did not address licensed carry at all. Only that the DC prohibition on carry was unconstitutional and that you could legally carry in DC if you could legally possess in your home state.

So in DC, a DC resident could carry if his firearm is registered, as DC as of yet, has no permit scheme..

A copy of Chief Lanier's order is attached. It has now been rescinded because of the 90 day stay but note it doesn't mention anything about a permit. Only that you if you can legally possess, there is no violation of law.

Your welcome as well.

 

[solus]

so they can't carry anything, so life goes on exactly the same as before the judge's ruling.

SVG think 1K is too short of period.

ipse

 

[swinokur]

Basically yes. back to what it was. But there is a post in another thread stating DC for now has suspended charging people with handgun crimes but will charge other offenses if they can.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26262113/dc-gun-ruling-is-on-hold-but-having-an-effect

 

[WalkingWolf]

Basically yes. back to what it was. But there is a post in another thread stating DC for now has suspended charging people with handgun crimes but will charge other offenses if they can.

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/26262113/dc-gun-ruling-is-on-hold-but-having-an-effect

'Without the pistol-carrying charge, prosecutors handling new gun cases still have options. Those generally include two misdemeanor charges: possession of an unregistered firearm and unlawful possession of ammunition. "

So what good is a gun without ammunition?

 

[swinokur]

In DC, being in possession of ammunition that is capable of being used ina gun that is not registered to you is also a misdemeanor. they're obviously grasping at straws here IMO. I think they're trying to avoid having a bunch of gun charges tossed out if someone is charged and the law gets changed to allow carry or is the ruling is sustained on appeal.. Saves them a bunch of money and time.

Just guessing.

 

[Toymaker]

In DC, being in possession of ammunition that is capable of being used ina gun that is not registered to you is also a misdemeanor. they're obviously grasping at straws here IMO. I think they're trying to avoid having a bunch of gun charges tossed out if someone is charged and the law gets changed to allow carry or is the ruling is sustained on appeal.. Saves them a bunch of money and time.

Just guessing.

I think you're right. They consider the number of residents with registered guns to be minimal so they don't want to create any more potential retractions than necessary.

It would be interesting to see how they'd treat a non-resident with a legally possessed gun since non-residents aren't mentioned.

 

[swinokur]

Well Judge Sculins ruling specifically stated non residents shall be treated the same as DC residents to comply with equal protection requirements.. I'm only guessing but I believe the prosecutorial discretion would apply to non rewsidents as well.

Just my opinion.

IANAL.

 

[SteveInCO]

Well Judge Sculins ruling specifically stated non residents shall be treated the same as DC residents to comply with equal protection requirements.. I'm only guessing but I believe the prosecutorial discretion would apply to non rewsidents as well.

Just my opinion.

IANAL.

That's assuming they put some thought into it and haven't decided a non-resident is less likely to put up a fight. Admittedly on that last point this is far more than a traffic ticket we are talking about.