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Concealed firearm permits

Trigger Dr

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S.176 -- Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2011 (Introduced in Senate - IS)

S 176 IS

112th CONGRESS

1st Session

S. 176

To establish minimum standards for States that allow the carrying of concealed firearms.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

January 25 (legislative day, January 5), 2011

Mrs. BOXER introduced the following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

To establish minimum standards for States that allow the carrying of concealed firearms.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Common Sense Concealed Firearms Permit Act of 2011'.

SEC. 2. CONCEALED FIREARMS PERMITS.

(a) In General- Chapter 44 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by inserting after section 926C, the following:

`Sec. 926D. Concealed firearms permits

`(a) In General- Each State that allows residents of the State to carry concealed firearms shall--

`(1) establish a process to issue permits to residents of the State to carry concealed firearms; and

`(2) require that each resident of the State seeking to carry a concealed firearm in the State obtain a permit through the process established under paragraph (1).

`(b) Requirements- In establishing a process to issue permits to carry concealed firearms under subsection (a), a State shall--

`(1) ensure that a local law enforcement agency participates in the process; and

`(2) at a minimum, require that an applicant for a permit to carry a concealed firearm--

`(A) be a legal resident of the United States;

`(B) be not less than 21 years of age;

`(C) demonstrate good cause for requesting a concealed firearm permit; and

`(D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.

`(c) Law Enforcement Agency Report- If a State establishes a process under subsection (a) that allows for an agency other than a law enforcement agency to issue permits to carry concealed firearms, the process shall require that--

`(1) a local law enforcement agency submit to the agency responsible for issuing permits a written report that describes whether the applicant meets the standards of the State to carry a concealed firearm; and

`(2) the agency responsible for issuing permits maintain a report submitted under paragraph (1) in the file of the applicant.
 

SpyderTattoo

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`(C) demonstrate good cause for requesting a concealed firearm permit; and

`(D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.

WTF??? Good cause? Not just "Because it's my right to carry a firearm"...
 

amlevin

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The main question is "Where is the Constitutional Justification for this measure?

If Congress is going to consider legislation like this they at least ought to include "mandatory reciprocity" in it.

Also, make the requirements "Shall Issue" to all who are not Felons or "adjudicated as Mentally Unqualified".
 

samaloney2006

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My first reaction when I saw Senator Boxer's name on it was oh oh, what now. A permit for just cause? It sounds like Hawaii. I believe she is real close to stepping on the 2nd Amendment. I plan to right our senators (probably wont do much good). I would anticipate that this won't go far but you never know.
 

bennie1986

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`(a) In General- Each State that allows residents of the State to carry concealed firearms shall--


`(1) establish a process to issue permits to residents of the State to carry concealed firearms; and

THIS MAKES CONSTITUTIONAL CARRY STATES REQUIRE PERMITS WTF!
 

Grapeshot

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O_mama isn't after your gun rights ........ but his minions ARE.

Can you tell the difference?
 

BigDave

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This bill could end up making as said before a may issue and could at the whim of any law enforcement agency to revokes ones license, I vote for constitutional carry it is my right and I carry.
 

emtechnik

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`(D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.
WORTHY!?!?! what makes me "worthy"? I haven't received any formal training, but I go to the range plenty! Who are the feds to decide whether or not I am worthy of exercising my right to defend myself! :cuss::cuss::cuss:
 

joeroket

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`(C) demonstrate good cause for requesting a concealed firearm permit; and

`(D) demonstrate that the applicant is worthy of the public trust to carry a concealed firearm in public.

WTF??? Good cause? Not just "Because it's my right to carry a firearm"...

I didn't catch that at first read. What a crock of crap. The writer and sponsors of this bill should be required to resign their positions as they are proposing an unconstitutional bill.
 

Grapeshot

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+3

I know this is a dumb question but if this goes through wold this be sate wide or country wide?

The standards would be federal, but not to anyone's benefit. It would be a major step back for states that have their own permit system and no net gain for those without.

Plain and simple gun control.
 
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