Car to pedestrian transition

[samkent]

I do know that the Cincinnati police cheif had a talk to his underlings about citizens right to OC. So Cincy is likely to be a tad more friendly than has been suggested.

But as has been suggested here, get a permit. It save all this greif.
It's nice to climb in and out of my car without worrying if someone is watching.
One of the nicest things about a CC permit is that your gun gets to ride with you instead of being striped and thrown in the trunk.

Personally I feel the most dangerious thing transitioning from car to pedestrian is a woman in a mini skirt. They've caused many of us more greif and money than guns could ever do.

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

...But as has been suggested here, get a permit. It save all this greif...

What is this 'permit' you speak of?

I think he should get a 'license'.

 

[Werz]

Ohio would not be willing to issue me a permit.

On the other hand, I could get a non-resident Utah permit and Ohio (as well as MN, WV, VA and WA) would honor that though they don't honor Colorado permits.

We Ohioans will treat you more fairly that Colorado treats us. There is essentially no way an Ohioan can carry concealed in Colorado, since Colorado does not honor Ohio licenses, will not issue non-resident permits, and will not honor non-resident permits issued by any other state. Add to that the fact that Colorado does not have statewide preemption on open carry, thus allowing bans on open carry in Denver, plus the new ban on magazines exceeding 15 rounds. Given that I spend one or two weeks per year visiting family in a suburb of Denver, you can understand my resentment.

 

[SteveInCO]

We Ohioans will treat you more fairly that Colorado treats us. There is essentially no way an Ohioan can carry concealed in Colorado, since Colorado does not honor Ohio licenses, will not issue non-resident permits, and will not honor non-resident permits issued by any other state. Add to that the fact that Colorado does not have statewide preemption on open carry, thus allowing bans on open carry in Denver, plus the new ban on magazines exceeding 15 rounds. Given that I spend one or two weeks per year visiting family in a suburb of Denver, you can understand my resentment.

Meanwhile there's no way for me to carry there without finding someone somewhere who will give me Utah training. That's not much better.

OC (including in the car) is legal anywhere but Denver. OC in the car is, I believe, legal even in Denver. No "CHP" (Concealed Handgun Permit) required. (Denver IS preempted on CC matters, but that doesn't make much difference here.)

The 15 round magazine limit is essentially unenforceable; its only real effect is that you can't buy one now. (My carry piece takes 16 round magazines, I ain't sweating it.) Your old mags are grandfathered, and if you bought one tomorrow in Ohio and brought it here, they'd never be able to prove Richard. And most of the sheriffs are on record as refusing to attempt to enforce it.

You are free to visit your relatives and OC until you are blue in the face with no car-to-pedestrian dance, as long as you don't do so inside Denver city limits. Your relative's neighborhood should be OK if they live in in a suburb.

I'd say it's about even, especially from an OC point of view, and would be tilted heavily in Colorado's favor were it not for Denver--or if you aren't anywhere near Denver. (I rarely go there myself.)

 

[JmE]

I used to make the transition (but mostly the somewhat analogous Buckeye tuck) "loud and proud"; meaning that I didn't much care if I was made in the process. Then I figured if the State didn't like it they might remove the idiotic prohibitions on vehicle OC as well as the whole exposed in a car CHL thing ("Buckeye tuck"). I used to to the same thing when disarming to go into the few CPZs that I had to disarm for (usually government buildings). For the most part people were in condition white so I don't think it made a darn bit of difference. Even now I don't hide... I just do it.

 

[mcflyj]

I actually called my friend to ask him. He lives in Columbus, and he seems to think that the act of open carry (not even "the dance") WILL get you into a confrontation with the cops, every time you try it. He (not surprisingly) strongly advises me not to try it and thinks I should just get a Utah permit and CC. (After, of course launching into choir preaching-to about why we shouldn't need a permit!)

However, I am pretty sure he is basing this on things he hears, rather than personal experience. This leads to a couple of errors: He sees incidents from all over the state, thus hears about all the places you don't want to try it. Also he ONLY has bad incidents to go on, since you don't hear about the people who didn't get harassed. The dog that didn't bark. And he himself has no first-hand knowledge since he doesn't carry at all, much less openly.

I'd be interested in as many other perspectives as possible.

he seems to think that the act of open carry (not even "the dance") WILL get you into a confrontation with the cops, every time you try it.

It might, hard to tell. Im my experance it only gets you followed and watched by police. As such, if they see you knowingly or unknowingly breaking a law, it's my guess this risk of confrontation would increase.

I'd be interested in as many other perspectives as possible

My perspective is there are alot of factors to weigh, and cops, might be the least of your worries in openly carrying. Theres alot of people who might have a problem with it and a good percentage of those people may believe it's against the law. When they find it's not, in their minds it should be, so again, it's going to be a game of lets see what we can get you in trouble for, they may not be above lying. My perspective is it's good you want to do this. Some can't afford to rock the boat, and one person's activity may be another's crime. There are many examples of two people seen doing the same thing and only one being arrested for it.

I don't want to tell you you'll be fine OCing, that you will be left alone and treated equal, then have that turn out not to be true. But you read from others who seem to have no problem with it, and do so everyday in a casual fashon. I would just say to use your own judgment. I dabbled in it, then decided that I can't afford to rock the boat at this time, maybe never the way things are looking.

 

[MyWifeSaidYes]

...I dabbled in it, then decided that I can't afford to rock the boat at this time, maybe never the way things are looking.

Thank you for not being completely against open carry on an open carry forum.

CAN bad things happen? Yes.

WILL bad things happen? Maybe.

Do I WANT bad things to happen? No.

Am I too fat to draw quickly from concealment? Yes.

Will someone be scared or offended if they see me OC'ing? Maybe.

As long as I am law-abiding, do I care what others think? No.

Carry or don't. Conceal or don't. Have it yourrrrr way at Burrrrrgerrr Kinnnggg!

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