Bill of sale

[younggun20]

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Any one have a good firearm Bill of sale they would be willing to share with me?

 

[SouthernBoy]

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Make one up yourself. That's what I do. The things you want to include are seller's name, buyer's name, model and manufacturer, serial number, date of sale, price, and places were you both can sign and print your names.

Optionally, you might consider including addresses and the buyer's driver's license number if you wish.

 

[HankT]

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younggun20 wrote:

Any one have a good firearm Bill of sale they would be willing to share with me?

You might want to do a search of gun bill of sale on Google.
Here's one I found at:

http://forum.pafoa.org/firearms-6/3241-firearm-bill-sale-free-use.html

It's a bit much, but I love the stolen gun provisions. There are others. I reallyprefer to do agun transaction witha bill of sale. But it simply isn't always possible.

Bill of Sale
Transfer of Ownership

For $______ received, I, (seller’s name here), have sold to (buyer's name here)
One (1) ABC Model XYZ firearm description here, Serial # _____________
Any other accessories here

I represent that this ___________ is not stolen. I am the owner of the _______ listed above. If it can be shown now or in the future that this _______ was stolen prior to the date listed below, I will give the buyer a full refund for return of the _______ and all accessories listed above.

Sold as is.
No warranty is expressed or implied by the Seller.
Seller assumes no responsibility after transfer of ownership has taken place.
Seller assumes no responsibility of any/all aftermarket parts added to the ___________.
Seller assumes no responsibility of any/all original equipment parts on the ________.
Buyer assumes all responsibility when transfer of ownership has taken place.

Seller specifically disclaims any warranties of merchantability or of fitness for a particular purpose of this ________ and disclaims all responsibility for consequential and/or incidental damages or any other losses arising from the use of said _________.

Buyer agrees to the terms and conditions set forth and listed on this document, and acknowledges that he has received a true copy of this Bill of Sale/Transfer of Ownership and certifies that he is 21 years of age or older. Buyer acknowledges and understands that he will read the Owner’s Manual. Buyer agrees that it will be his responsibility when transfer of ownership has taken place to adjust, check, and follow all instructions as outlined in the Owner’s Manual. Buyer attests that he is able to legally buy and possess firearms.

Buyer: Name Here
Seller: Name Here

Date:_________________________

Buyer: _____________________________
Address:____________________________
Phone #: ____________________________
Seller: ______________________________
Address: ____________________________
Phone #: ____________________________

 

[PT111]

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The one thing I noticed on this BOS is that it assumes that you have transferred an owners manual with it and that the owners manual is the correct one. Also the buyer does not have to be 21 in all states.

As was said I would require a DL# or some kind of actual ID rather than a phone number.

 

[Il_Duce]

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I wouldn't.

Once I sell something, I don't give a rat's rear who has it, it's out of my hands.

I just sold a pistol a few months ago, never even asked the guy's name beyond him introducing himself by his first name. Couldn't tell you what he looked like now, either.

 

[HankT]

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Il_Duce wrote:

I wouldn't.

Once I sell something, I don't give a rat's rear who has it, it's out of my hands.

I just sold a pistol a few months ago, never even asked the guy's name beyond him introducing himself by his first name. Couldn't tell you what he looked like now, either.

How did you obtain that gun? Through an FFL or from a private party?

 

[younggun20]

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I did think of writing my own, but with so many brilliant minds on OCDO i figured someone could write one better than me... I'm not the sharpest crayon in the box.

I didnt think of googling it.

Thank you all for your help.

Cameron

 

[Il_Duce]

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HankT wrote:

Il_Duce wrote:

I wouldn't.

Once I sell something, I don't give a rat's rear who has it, it's out of my hands.

I just sold a pistol a few months ago, never even asked the guy's name beyond him introducing himself by his first name. Couldn't tell you what he looked like now, either.

How did you obtain that gun? Through an FFL or from a private party?

It's been a while now, I don't remember.

 

[Flyer22]

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HankT wrote:

Il_Duce wrote:

I wouldn't.

Once I sell something, I don't give a rat's rear who has it, it's out of my hands.

I just sold a pistol a few months ago, never even asked the guy's name beyond him introducing himself by his first name. Couldn't tell you what he looked like now, either.

How did you obtain that gun? Through an FFL or from a private party?

What's the relevance of your question?

 

[Mike]

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younggun20 wrote:

Any one have a good firearm Bill of sale they would be willing to share with me?

why even do one? - just sell the gun.

 

[younggun20]

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Ended up just trading it accross, he showed DL and CWP.. good enough for me. Also the weapon i traded for came with every original paper and receipt. So were good. Thank you all for your help

 

[northstar65]

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Are there any states that actually require a bill of sale for private transfers ?

 

[younggun20]

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Mike wrote:

younggun20 wrote:

Any one have a good firearm Bill of sale they would be willing to share with me?

why even do one? - just sell the gun.

Well im from a small city called Kearns which is like the Compton of Utah. I live a block away from the high school where there is a gun pulled everyday and a shooting thats caught atleast once a month.
So I just wanted to cover my own butt. i dont want to have to profile people but I guess now a days you have to.

 

[Nutczak]

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In this day and age I would not ever consider selling a firearm to anyone without getting their correct legal name, address, and some form of Govt. issued ID numbers. there are way too many chances to get in trouble for "transferring a firearm to a __________" (fill in the blank) because he may sell it to someone else and it may still come back to you as being the villain for selling the gun to someone else in the first place.

Look at what happened to David Olofson in WI, an acquaintance of hiswas using his AR-15 at a target range, the gun malfunctioned with a slam-fire and discharged 3 rounds and jammed. Now Olofson is sitting in a federal prison because of it.

My most used gun dealer added a questionnaire onto his normal paperwork where the buyer must also fill in if he is under the influence of alcohol, prescription or illicit drugs, that he is is sound state of mind and all other types of crap. He does this to cover his own arse.

 

[Bill Starks]

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Washington state has a voluntary form that I use.

http://www.dol.wa.gov/forms/652004.pdf

 

[Il_Duce]

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Nutczak wrote:

In this day and age I would not ever consider selling a firearm to anyone without getting their correct legal name, address, and some form of Govt. issued ID numbers. there are way too many chances to get in trouble for "transferring a firearm to a __________" (fill in the blank) because he may sell it to someone else and it may still come back to you as being the villain for selling the gun to someone else in the first place.

Look at what happened to David Olofson in WI, an acquaintance of hiswas using his AR-15 at a target range, the gun malfunctioned with a slam-fire and discharged 3 rounds and jammed. Now Olofson is sitting in a federal prison because of it.

My most used gun dealer added a questionnaire onto his normal paperwork where the buyer must also fill in if he is under the influence of alcohol, prescription or illicit drugs, that he is is sound state of mind and all other types of crap. He does this to cover his own arse.

Actually, as it turned out, Olofson knew about the issues his rifle had and warned his friend about it.

 

[Kevin Jensen]

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younggun20 wrote:

Well im from a small city called Kearns which is like the Compton of Utah.

About ten years ago, the comedian Mark Britten coined a great nickname for Kearns...

Meth Lab with a View.



ETA... I don't do bills of sale, ID, CFP... If I want to buy from a private party, and they ask me that crap,I tell them to keep the gun.

 

[Mike]

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Nutczak wrote:

In this day and age I would not ever consider selling a firearm to anyone without getting their correct legal name, address, and some form of Govt. issued ID numbers. there are way too many chances to get in trouble for "transferring a firearm to a __________" (fill in the blank) because he may sell it to someone else and it may still come back to you as being the villain for selling the gun to someone else in the first place.

if it is illegal in your state to sell privately, then don;t do it - a bill of sale just proves your guilt.

A bill of sale in a state that allows private sales does nothing for you because there is no crime to sell guns privately. Come on.

 

[Doug Huffman]

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Mike wrote:

A bill of sale in a state that allows private sales does nothing for you because there is no crime to sell guns privately. Come on.

The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense and ONLY through limitation of sense to the lowest common denominator are charges of 'elitism' to be avoided.

 

[FogRider]

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Flyer22 wrote:

HankT wrote:

Il_Duce wrote:

I wouldn't.

Once I sell something, I don't give a rat's rear who has it, it's out of my hands.

I just sold a pistol a few months ago, never even asked the guy's name beyond him introducing himself by his first name. Couldn't tell you what he looked like now, either.

How did you obtain that gun? Through an FFL or from a private party?

What's the relevance of your question?

I think the point is if it was FFL the paper trail ends with him at the moment, not whoever he sold it to.