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Bies authoring a bill to make 8 hours training mandatory

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McX

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i thought everything was a done deal, set in stone, and written. something tells me this guy is going to profit somehow from this.
 

Flipper

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He's former cop. Likely believes cops are the "well regulated militia." He doesn't deserve a NRA rating above "C." He's no friend.
 
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safcrkr

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By the time any such bill could possibly be even voted on, most of us will already have our permits. After it's introduced, a proposed bill needs to get circulated for co-sponsors, assigned to committee, public hearings scheduled and held, voted on by committee and IF passed there, sent to full Assembly for scheduling, brought to the floor and debated, voted on, and IF passed there... sent to Senate, put on the schedule, brought to the floor, debated, then voted on, and IF passed there... sent to the Governor for signature. IF signed, sent to DOJ to have "administrative rules" written (we can all see how fast this stuff moves through this process before it actually "hits the streets").

He'll introduce it later this month? WTF? Permit applications will begin to be accepted the 1st day of next month. There's no training requirement in Act 35 for renewal 5 years from now. If you get a permit before this nonsense becomes a law (IF it becomes a law) you'll not be effected by it.... so what's the point? An 8 hour training class requirement is exactly what Rep. Peter Barka (D) had in a proposed amendment to SB93 in the Assembly, and it failed to pass. It was rumored that a Repub (Sen. Van Wanggard, also ex-LEO) was going to introduce such an amendment in the Senate too... but he knew it didn't have enough support and he backed off. Why would Rep. Bies think he can do something now, literally at the last minute?
 
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Herr Heckler Koch

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Someone very wise, here, said "There ain't a lickspittle difference between demo and repug."

Gun control is about control only.

Express to this Bias-jerk what are the chances of a vote for him or for any repugnican.
 

Outdoorsman1

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By the time any such bill could possibly be even voted on, most of us will already have our permits. After it's introduced, a proposed bill needs to get circulated for co-sponsors, assigned to committee, public hearings scheduled and held, voted on by committee and IF passed there, sent to full Assembly for scheduling, brought to the floor and debated, voted on, and IF passed there... sent to Senate, put on the schedule, brought to the floor, debated, then voted on, and IF passed there... sent to the Governor for signature. IF signed, sent to DOJ to have "administrative rules" written (we can all see how fast this stuff moves through this process before it actually "hits the streets").

He'll introduce it later this month? WTF? Permit applications will begin to be accepted the 1st day of next month. There's no training requirement in Act 35 for renewal 5 years from now. If you get a permit before this nonsense becomes a law (IF it becomes a law) you'll not be effected by it.... so what's the point? An 8 hour training class requirement is exactly what Rep. Peter Barka (D) had in a proposed amendment to SB93 in the Assembly, and it failed to pass. It was rumored that a Repub (Sen. Van Wanggard, also ex-LEO) was going to introduce such an amendment in the Senate too... but he knew it didn't have enough support and he backed off. Why would Rep. Bies think he can do something now, literally at the last minute?

Pretty much this...^^^^^^^

I a thinking that No Way- Now How will anything like this make it far enought to actually become law....

If the DOJ or any other Rep. is successfull in seriously changing or adding new crap like this then I have made the decision (literally) to tell them to take their permit and roll it up ito a tight little tube and stick it up their pee hole.. (I am thinking a whole lot more painfull than where the sun don't shine).. I know, I know, the sun don't shine on the pee hole either...

What I am saying is that I have already had enough crap with the application / permit requirement over Constitutional Carry, and having to wait 4 months to be able to open carry loaded in a vehicle (not to mention the crap surrounding that issue) if any other "bad" changes are madr then I will opt out of the permit and take my chances open carrying under the new 167.31 statute and AVOID school zones....

Outdoorsman1
 

GLOCK21GB

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Someone very wise, here, said "There ain't a lickspittle difference between demo and repug."

Gun control is about control only.

Express to this Bias-jerk what are the chances of a vote for him or for any repugnican.

at least he was not doing this, like this Elected Rep was introducing in Washington DC......Holy God we are so F-ed !!!!

you have to watch this > http://youtu.be/KaztexKNf_o
 

GLOCK21GB

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classified..............classified....................flesh eating.............ZOMBIES! I KNEW IT!.................classified................classified

then if things get so bad..classified .....and the Air Force...classified......irradiation.....classifies....... WOW..that's scares me BIG TIME
 
M

McX

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then if things get so bad..classified .....and the Air Force...classified......irradiation.....classifies....... WOW..that's scares me BIG TIME

we shouldnt give them ideas, next thing you'll see is VanHollen and the DOJ support training for a period of (classified) for (classified) so the (classified) will meet the minimum (classified) period to be issued a (classified).

sincerely,
(classified)
 

skidmark

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classified..............classified....................flesh eating.............ZOMBIES! I KNEW IT!.................classified................classified

You forgot
<pause> Oh, Jesus! <pause> "That's classified."

I've contacted my elected representatives (House and Senate) and am urging them to vote FOR this bill. Even if it's currently classified I'm sure it contains funds for "Burn it! It's the only way to be sure," and "Lift off and nuke it from orbit" somewhere in there.:D

stay safe.
 

mrjam2jab

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By the time any such bill could possibly be even voted on, most of us will already have our permits. After it's introduced, a proposed bill needs to get circulated for co-sponsors, assigned to committee, public hearings scheduled and held, voted on by committee and IF passed there, sent to full Assembly for scheduling, brought to the floor and debated, voted on, and IF passed there... sent to Senate, put on the schedule, brought to the floor, debated, then voted on, and IF passed there... sent to the Governor for signature. IF signed, sent to DOJ to have "administrative rules" written (we can all see how fast this stuff moves through this process before it actually "hits the streets").

He'll introduce it later this month? WTF? Permit applications will begin to be accepted the 1st day of next month. There's no training requirement in Act 35 for renewal 5 years from now. If you get a permit before this nonsense becomes a law (IF it becomes a law) you'll not be effected by it.... so what's the point? An 8 hour training class requirement is exactly what Rep. Peter Barka (D) had in a proposed amendment to SB93 in the Assembly, and it failed to pass. It was rumored that a Repub (Sen. Van Wanggard, also ex-LEO) was going to introduce such an amendment in the Senate too... but he knew it didn't have enough support and he backed off. Why would Rep. Bies think he can do something now, literally at the last minute?

Thinking long term....it would effect many people down the road. "kill" it now before it even gets out of the box.
 

ccwinstructor

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Not Democrats and Republicans: It is Progressives and Constitutionalists

Someone very wise, here, said "There ain't a lickspittle difference between demo and repug."

Gun control is about control only.

Express to this Bias-jerk what are the chances of a vote for him or for any repugnican.

There used to be a few Constitutionalists in the Democrat party, but they are pretty much extinct. There are quite a few Constitutionalists in the Republican party. You have to look deeper than the party label, though it is a decent indicator. The Progressives of both parties have caused incredible harm to the Constitution over the last 100 years.
 

comp45acp

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As mentioned Bies is a former Chief Deputy. He was pushing this crap during the hearings on Act 35. It is because of him that competition shooting was dropped as a exemption to training. Conservative guy for the most part but, like most cops, can't get it through his head that armed citizens don't do what cops do and therefore don't need the same training.
 
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