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BBC: NSA surveillance lawful, judge rules.

DrakeZ07

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Posted in the Social Lounge because not-gun related, also, didn't see any threads about it.
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A US federal judge has ruled that mass government surveillance of the phone network is legal, a week after another court said the opposite

New York District Judge William Pauley described the snooping as a "counter-punch" against al-Qaeda.

He said the National Security Agency (NSA) programme might even have prevented the 9/11 attacks.

Last week a Washington DC federal judge ruled the surveillance was "likely unconstitutional" and "Orwellian".

But in Friday's decision, Judge Pauley, of the US District Court for the Southern District of New York, said "the balance of equities and the public interest tilt firmly in favour of the Government's position".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/25529677

I think that's a Fair-use Quote, but don't quote me on that :p
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Isn't it amazing that a Foreign news service does a better job of reporting on U.S. news than U.S. media outlets? I first saw it on RT, then cross-checked BBC, then turned on CNN and MSNBC and they didn't have anything on it at all.

Well it's official guys, the 4th Amendment is meaningless. And the 5th has already been stripped down to uselessness because of the Boston Bomber thing. Seems like the Gov't is working in reverse order to tear up our Rights. Don't worry though, the last right to be taken away will be free speech, press, and religion, so the anti-gunners, and anti-liberty, and anti-patriot patriots will all have their day in the sun! Should I start sewing pink triangles to my stripped pajamas, or wait until an Americanized Swastika is flying over D.C.?
 
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I believe there was also another ruling in a different circuit that that's said it was no good.

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I believe there was also another ruling in a different circuit that that's said it was no good.

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His FUQ mentions that. This will have to be resolved the the SC. Unless Obama gets to alter the balance of the court, the NY judge will be slapped down and the DC judge will be validated.
 

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His FUQ mentions that. This will have to be resolved the the SC. Unless Obama gets to alter the balance of the court, the NY judge will be slapped down and the DC judge will be validated.

You have great faith. I predict the National Security State will prevail regardless. After all, "ninehlevin"
 

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Well, if one court says yes and another says no .. then the NSA should not suck up the data from the one that says no, right?

But I think that this is an impossible task .... so they'll keep on sucking
 

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Posted in the Social Lounge because not-gun related, also, didn't see any threads about it.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/25529677

I think that's a Fair-use Quote, but don't quote me on that :p
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Isn't it amazing that a Foreign news service does a better job of reporting on U.S. news than U.S. media outlets? I first saw it on RT, then cross-checked BBC, then turned on CNN and MSNBC and they didn't have anything on it at all.

Well it's official guys, the 4th Amendment is meaningless. And the 5th has already been stripped down to uselessness because of the Boston Bomber thing. Seems like the Gov't is working in reverse order to tear up our Rights. Don't worry though, the last right to be taken away will be free speech, press, and religion, so the anti-gunners, and anti-liberty, and anti-patriot patriots will all have their day in the sun! Should I start sewing pink triangles to my stripped pajamas, or wait until an Americanized Swastika is flying over D.C.?

Didn't read the full article, just the quote... But it's absolutely despicable. "Balance of equities and public interest?" And even has the gall to say that it might have prevented the success of the attacks on 9/11!?! There were a lot of choices that could have been made by many different people that might have prevented the success of the attacks on 9/11. Being an act that might have prevented the attacks on 9/11 does not automatically justify that act. Rights are inalienable, sir. You don't get to suspend them regardless of how "interested" the public is. You don't get to suspend them by simply playing a utilitarian card.
 
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