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Another reason to Open Carry

demnogis

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Apparently part of our budget legislation last year included an Assembly Bill that mandates the release of something to the tune of 40,000 criminals who are deemed "non violent" and "low risk".

There have been many law enforcement professionals detesting this as the system in CA is a plea-trade system. Most violent offenders plea down to lesser "not violent" charges to assure a conviction (politics for the city DAs, more convictions = better batting average so to speak).

In my home county about 400 were released just last week. These are people who have been put away for anything from felony drug possession to embezzlement to assault with a deadly weapon. If they were released in the past and only violated their parole they will be released according to the parole violation charges.

The best part? They are released without parole. Basically if they commit another crime, it's as though they start with a clean slate.

Now that the Legislature has taken it upon itself to release known violent criminals into our streets, it is more important than ever to start looking to protect ourselves first and call for help second. Couple these inmate releases with the ENORMOUS budget cuts that are coming to police, fire and rescue first (the bureaucrat agencies last), police will undoubtedly be even further away or already handling dangerous calls.
 

jeeper1

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The best part? They are released without parole. Basically if they commit another crime, it's as though they start with a clean slate.

Did the PRK get rid of the three strikes law?
 

Hawaii FiveO

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jeeper1 wrote:
The best part? They are released without parole. Basically if they commit another crime, it's as though they start with a clean slate.

Did the PRK get rid of the three strikes law?

No. Well, I don't think so. My understanding is that all the three strikes have to be of a violent nature.

I remember reading where an ex-felon with two strikes was going to be tried as a third striker for stealing a loaf of bread.

The courts struck it down and said they have to be of a violent nature.
 

Hawaii FiveO

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I'm half right. The third strike does not have to be a serious or violent crime. But it does have to be a *felony.* Shoplifting or stealing something less than $400 value (in CA)is a misdemeanor, thus does not qualify as a third strike.



"Third Strike Offense. If a person has two or more previous serious or violent felony convictions, the sentence for any new felony conviction (not just a serious or violent felony) is life imprisonment with the minimum term being 25years. Offenders convicted under this provision are frequently referred to as “third strikers.”
 
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