And we wonder why, oh why, carriers have a public image issue

[solus]

25 Oct 18 quote:PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) - Dozens of Fred Meyer customers were left in a panic when it appeared a man was waving a gun at people near the entrance of the north Portland store Thursday afternoon.

Turns out, the suspect was allegedly holding a black gun holster out a like a firearm inside the store off North Interstate Avenue.

Officers said they got several 911 calls about a gunman, including one witness who reported the man had fired the gun inside the store. Officers said they never found evidence of gunfire and believe the customers mistook the holster for a gun.

My whole life flashed before my eyes and all I could see was my babies,” said Gail Williams-Brown, who said she was near the suspect when he started acting erratically. “I didn’t even think. I just grabbed my daughter and tried to shield her.”

Williams-Brown said Fred Meyer employees ushered her and her daughter, as well as many others, into a back room before letting them out a door leading to the parking lot.
“I’m glad they took initiative and got everybody to safety,” Williams-Brown said.

Huntley [suspect] was taken to jail on charges of menacing, second-degree disorderly conduct in the second-degree trespassing, and a probation violation for a previous conviction of possession of cocaine. Unquote https://www.kptv.com/news/police-su...cle_79935822-d8d8-11e8-b7f0-6b2048718d26.html

Someone reported shot(s) fired...wonder if 911voice recordings would match Ms williams-brown’s voice?

 

[Roverhound]

I hear that umbrellas are deadly also.

 

[1911LVR]

Sharp pencils...

Sharp pencils are definitely a threat. We should ban them from all school campuses.

 

[color of law]

Film at 11:00 p.m.

 

[gutshot II]

25 Oct 18 quote:PORTLAND, OR (KPTV) - snip...
Williams-Brown said Fred Meyer employees ushered her and her daughter, as well as many others, into a back room before letting them out a door leading to the parking lot.
“I’m glad they took initiative and got everybody to safety,” Williams-Brown said....snip

Safety? Who was in danger? They may have THOUGHT they were in danger, but were they, actually? Such is the case in present day America. The perception of danger is just as bad or maybe worse than the real thing. Danger is not knowing you are safe. Who ever KNOWS they are safe? Nobody, so we are constantly "in danger". Danger of what? The danger of not knowing, for a certainty, that we are safe. The danger of being made afraid. We have a right to be guaranteed unafraidness. We are guaranteed a life without any fears. When we are made afraid we have the right to relief.

 

[since9]

Throughout my Air Force career, far too many people who weren't wise enough to keep their yammerholes shut kept saying, "Perception is reality.

I grew so tired of hearing it that I developed a canned response, in part to vent my spleen and in part as a wake-up call for them to stop throwing around idiotic axioms without having thought them through.

No, perception is not reality. It is merely an abstraction thereof, and quite often, not a very good one at that. ​

If they persisted, and since I was an aviator among aviators, I'd say, "Tell that to the pilot who stalled and augered in because he perceived he was flying 20 kts faster than he was."

Fortunately, in my neck of the woods, 911 operators are specifically trained to deal with MWAG calls by asking callers certain defining questions, and officers are trained to observe first, making contact only if one or more infractions are being committed.

Why? Because some blitheringly idiotic libtard's frightened perception is not reality.

 

[WalkingWolf]

Throughout my Air Force career, far too many people who weren't wise enough to keep their yammerholes shut kept saying, "Perception is reality.

I grew so tired of hearing it that I developed a canned response, in part to vent my spleen and in part as a wake-up call for them to stop throwing around idiotic axioms without having thought them through.

No, perception is not reality. It is merely an abstraction thereof, and quite often, not a very good one at that. ​

If they persisted, and since I was an aviator among aviators, I'd say, "Tell that to the pilot who stalled and augered in because he perceived he was flying 20 kts faster than he was."

Fortunately, in my neck of the woods, 911 operators are specifically trained to deal with MWAG calls by asking callers certain defining questions, and officers are trained to observe first, making contact only if one or more infractions are being committed.

Why? Because some blitheringly idiotic libtard's frightened perception is not reality.

IIRC that is how John Kennedy Jr died, something to do with horizon perception in poor visibility.

 

[since9]

IIRC that is how John Kennedy Jr died, something to do with horizon perception in poor visibility.

Indeed. Following his accident, CFIs began placing increased emphasis on teaching new pilots how to transition to and fly on instruments. Prior to then, it was taught, but not very well emphasized. The lack of ability to successfully fly on instruments in a pinch had been cited as a factor in numerous general aviation accidents, but Kennedy Jr's accident put some punctuation on it.

Indeed, Chapter 10 of FAA-H-8083-3B (Airplane Flying Handbook) states:

Night Illusions
In addition to night vision limitations, night illusions can cause confusion and distractions during night flying. The following discussion covers some of the common situations that cause illusions associated with night flying.

On a clear night, distant stationary lights can be mistaken for stars or other aircraft. Cloud layers or even the northern lights can confuse a pilot and indicate a false visual horizon. Certain geometrical patterns of ground lights, such as a freeway, runway, approach, or even lights on a moving train, can cause confusion. Dark nights tend to eliminate reference to a visual horizon. As a result, pilots need to rely less on outside references at night and more on flight and navigation instruments.​

We think JFK, Jr. bought off on a false visual horizon and began fighting the conflict between the resulting turn and the seat of his pants info until he entered a death spiral. In 99.9% of all cases, ignoring what you think you see as well as what you think you feel and trusting one's instruments will help the pilot "straighten up and fly right."

Instrument flight training goes about ten steps further, teaching pilots to fly on instruments through all phases of flight between takeoff and landing. I highly recommend all newly minted pilots to continue their training by translating those houses into their instrument rating as soon as time and dollars allow. It just makes one a a much better, more proficient and safer pilot all around.