By that logic, our forefathers should have never left England to escape religious persecution nor should we have declared independence so we could have kept fighting the good fight by negotiation with our leaders in order to break their strings of oppressive acts. Sometimes, in order to secure a better future for ourselves and our descendents we have to go someplace where those values which we hold dear are nourished and upheld. Kudos for keeping up the good fight, but there is a point when you have to realize you are fighting for a lost cause. I honestly do not expect California to change its ways -- I am not slighting your efforts to prevent them but the number of people in Sacramento who support these kinds of knee jerk laws is mind boggling. At what point do we say enough is enough?
Our founding fathers and the pilgrim settlers are seperated by two generations (140 years). Independence was fought for not by new settlers, but by people who were born and raised here. But in spite of this oversight, I do believe those who were oppressed probably should have fought for what was their right in the place where they were born, lived and died. It would be an interesting outcome particularly for me, as a direct decendant of William Bradford. Had he defended his right to worship instead of casting all his hope in a new unknown land, I may have never come to be or a subject of another nation.
The founding fathers also made STATES and states rights so if you didnt like one state and their laws you could MOVE to another state that suited you better.
It is really childish for you to continue with the lame personal assaults on me for moving to another state. You have been doing it for awhile now and maybe you havent noticed but I take no shame in leaving and I have NO regrets. I do however have alot more money due to lower taxes and cost of living and I have ALOT more freedoms and liberties (in addition to a CCW).
Maybe you are just scared to leave and move on in life and experience new things and grow as a person. Its a big world out there and not everyone can handle it. Maybe thats why you stay.
Maybe you like being a subject and begging those in power to make your life better. Maybe you dont know how to make your life better yourself so you just sit back and blame politicians and assault those who actually have the balls to make life better for themselves and their family.
Either way, you are a failure because you are losing every gun rights battle and you are losing your money and freedoms every day.
Me and people like me are winning because we have courage to leave and improve our lives.
This isnt personal. It isnt personal because neither of us knows much, if anything about the other. You make it personal because you are threatened by someone simply stating that what worked for you, isnt for everyone. By coming to the California forum and repeatedly offering your advice to leave the state is not helpful for people who want to continue to partcipate in the political process. This was unwanted advice. Your persistance in defending your position, even after being rebuked for the off topic contribution only suggests how narcissistic and self centered you appear to be.
If you believe you have 'won' anything without fighting for it or 'improved things' without having made personal sacrifices beyond packing all your belongings and hauling them to a new home, you may as well pat yourself on the back for being fit and cognizant enough to consume air and groceries without the assistance of a hospice care institution. Regardless of what you believe about places like California (and Illinois and Maryland and New York-) this is where the battle for our right to keep and bear arms will be played out. This is where the heavy lifting must occur in order to ensure that all Americans will have the ability to possess and carry weapons for defense, not in the short term but in the generations to come.
What we must be able to tell our decendants, is what we did to ensure their liberty- I for one, will not be one of those that tells them that I hadnt the strength of conviction to stay in the community where I was born. That I had no desire to oppose tyranny imposed upon me. That easy liberty is as sweet as liberty that was bled for.
Victory isnt in grasping the low fruit and heroes are not found in the mundane; they are revealed in the tireless struggle against unequal forces.