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OK, this threat to the 4A is getting dangerous.

eye95

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I was responding to someone who brought the case up this morning, seemingly unaware that the case had been resolved.

Did you read that post, before reacting to mine?

:rolleyes:
 

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I was responding to someone who brought the case up this morning, seemingly unaware that the case had been resolved.

Did you read that post, before reacting to mine?

Ya, i pointed out the cnn headline....nawllll your too easy.
 

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I wasn’t replying to you. I generally don’t. Not worth it.

I was replying to CoL. Your post was entered while I was typing mine.
 

color of law

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Some people just refuse to accept that stepping outside your curtilage open themselves up to search without a warrant. Your privacy in your home is not even protected. A warrant only requires reasonableness. And reasonableness is not determined or based on your criteria. The supreme court has destroyed the 4th. amendment because, again, they twisted the wording to give it a meaning contrary to its plain reading.
 

color of law

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I was responding to someone who brought the case up this morning, seemingly unaware that the case had been resolved.

Did you read that post, before reacting to mine?

:rolleyes:
And to whom are you speaking?
If it was directed towards me then it appears you don't believe in giving credit where credit is due.
 

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LE RARELY do no knock warrants in my neck of the woods.
In fact I'm hard pressed to remember the last one they tried.

An area with large families of heavily armed citizens who will not take the shrill screaming ,POLICE , without seeing blue lights and marked cruisers outside, as their home is breached as proof its the cops , and will quite legally shoot everyone that enters ,tends to make such foolishness a very rare occurrence.
 

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Hoosier’s have changed their Castle Doctrine law says that if someone has entered or is attempting to enter your home without your consent, you’re legally permitted to use a reasonable amount of force to expel the intruder from your residence. If you reasonably believe your life or members of your family are in danger, you can use lethal force. The revision to Indiana’s law simply states that public servants aren’t exempt from such treatment.

Indiana residents must (a) reasonably believe the public servant is attempting to enter their home illegally and (b) use no more force than is reasonably necessary to dispel the threat to their lives or property.

Exerpted from https://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/myths-and-misconceptions-_b_1596846.html
 

color of law

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LE RARELY do no knock warrants in my neck of the woods.
In fact I'm hard pressed to remember the last one they tried.

An area with large families of heavily armed citizens who will not take the shrill screaming ,POLICE , without seeing blue lights and marked cruisers outside, as their home is breached as proof its the cops , and will quite legally shoot everyone that enters ,tends to make such foolishness a very rare occurrence.
I would think any intelligent officer would not participate in a no knock based on his own safety factor. 99% of warrants can be served without incident. I knew a deputy sheriff that all he and his partner (plain clothes) did was serve arrest warrants. On occasion he said you would have to sit on one until they calmed down. Did I mention he was 6' -4" weighing about 300#? Palming a basketball was not an issue.
 

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Oh dear eye95 seems FB left 100(s) millions of members passwords in clear text...

Wait there’s been no outrage, no screams of 4th amendment violation(s) nada from this great country’s populace?
 
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Some people just refuse to accept that stepping outside your curtilage open themselves up to search without a warrant. Your privacy in your home is not even protected. A warrant only requires reasonableness. And reasonableness is not determined or based on your criteria. The supreme court has destroyed the 4th. amendment because, again, they twisted the wording to give it a meaning contrary to its plain reading.

When you become contempt to accept something that is unjust to which is natural (like self defense) is to accept tyranny until it effects you or someone you love.
Just like the 2A, there's a reason the 4th Amendment are 4th in line and not the 27th...............and yes i refuse to accept the BS excuses i am receiving for the reasoning to violate the 4th. Because the 4th will protect the 1st, 2nd and all the rest of the Amendments followed.
 

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When you become contempt content to accept something that is unjust to which is natural (like self defense) is to accept tyranny until it effects you or someone you love.
Just like the 2A, there's a reason the 4th Amendment are 4th in line and not the 27th...............and yes i refuse to accept the BS excuses i am receiving for the reasoning to violate the 4th. Because the 4th will protect the 1st, 2nd and all the rest of the Amendments followed.
Fixed it for you.;)
I don't expect you to be content. I glad you want to fight for rights. What I'm pointing out is reality. Reality that the courts don't see what we see as truth. Question, have you ever been prosecuted for a jailable offense? If not you have know idea how the court system works.
 

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Thanks, typo....

I guess we can agree to disagree......GL and i hope yall fight will not go in vein.

I do what i can to fight for my rights, yours and your future decedents. You think we have it bad now, wait another decade.

I will not disclosed my past history online. But i have came face to face with the law and it feels like a communist regime.
 
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What do we disagree on? Also, you didn't answer my question.
The approached to the situation, you are passive, i am opposite. When i see something that is hemorrhaging i do what i can to badge or fix the issue and not be so scared of the Big Bad. Wolf..

I am not one of these.
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color of law

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The approached to the situation, you are passive, i am opposite. When i see something that is hemorrhaging i do what i can to badge or fix the issue and not be so scared of the Big Bad. Wolf..

I am not one of these.
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Young man, I have no idea where you got that idea. I asked you a simple question, have you ever been prosecuted for a jailable offense? And, you have chosen to ignore answering. Why I don't know. It must be a sore spot. Or, you are not the warrior you claim to be.

So, I will ask you a more poignant question, have you ever been prosecuted for a jailable offense in regards to exercising your second amendment right? My original question did not ask for details, it just asked a yes/no question.

I suggest you do a little research before making such proclamations. I'll wait for your results.
 

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Alas FreedomVA, the gaggle of members on this forum are those who have stepped up to meet at rallys to show we care, the individuals currently on like Tess, The Truth, Walking Wolf, gutshot, OC for ME, CoL, BB62, Poetdante, MSG Laigaie and the rest of the Bellingham gang in the PNW, Mac and the others in NV, Mama from Wy, and others across this country as well as those who have passed, skid, grapeshot, and others contributed time, money, sweat to their firearm OPEN CARRY advocacy in their communities the last 15 years.

The initial advocacy cause has tremendously changed/morphed in those years to something unrecognizable today. Why, mega buck special interest individuals and complacency from the majority of this nation’s citizens regarding their real and perceived rights, and a judical system out of control from initial concept. To further complicate things is the social & newspeek media frenzy as they pursue the next big story!

Bottom line, what you consider passive, isn’t actually, but rather a methodology which worked well in the past to reach advocacy goals.
 

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Alas FreedomVA, the gaggle of members on this forum are those who have stepped up to meet at rallys to show we care, the individuals currently on like Tess, The Truth, Walking Wolf, gutshot, OC for ME, CoL, BB62, Poetdante, MSG Laigaie and the rest of the Bellingham gang in the PNW, Mac and the others in NV, Mama from Wy, and others across this country as well as those who have passed, skid, grapeshot, and others contributed time, money, sweat to their firearm OPEN CARRY advocacy in their communities the last 15 years.

The initial advocacy cause has tremendously changed/morphed in those years to something unrecognizable today. Why, mega buck special interest individuals and complacency from the majority of this nation’s citizens regarding their real and perceived rights, and a judical system out of control from initial concept. To further complicate things is the social & newspeek media frenzy as they pursue the next big story!

Bottom line, what you consider passive, isn’t actually, but rather a methodology which worked well in the past to reach advocacy goals.
Lets not forget that some of us have gone to jail and have been prosecuted for open carrying or trying to move the ball forward.
 

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The data breach Solus mentioned is one of the reasons I have never used FB, etc. I don't believe ANY of those companies can keep their data safe forever. The same goes for these DNA ancestry searchers.
There is so little personal privacy left, I try to keep as much as I can.
 

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Lets not forget that some of us have gone to jail and have been prosecuted for open carrying or trying to move the ball forward.

CoL, i feel those stories belong to those individuals so prosecuted and not mine to tell per se, tks for the gentle reminder!
 
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