WalkingWolf
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Sorry I did not see that post, forgot there was a member with that name, but I found no mention of blankethead. Is that a pet name for that member, or something else?
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Armed Militia Take over Federal Reserve
- Thread starter sudden valley gunner
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Sorry I did not see that post, forgot there was a member with that name, but I found no mention of blankethead. Is that a pet name for that member, or something else?
OC for ME
Regular Member
The western states were once territories and their respective enabling acts delineated the portions of the future state that would remain federal property. Feds have been screwing the western states from the get-go. It is obvious that the feds have been gobbling up the lands of western states at a furious pace these past 100+ years.
If only there were as much national outrage over each one of these tyrannical actions as there is over college "safe spaces" the feds would be waking up the western state governors in the middle of the night to sign the land transfer papers.
Is Oregon working as Utah is to regain their lands?
http://www.sltrib.com/home/3287281-155/utah-commission-votes-to-sue-feds
rightwinglibertarian
Regular Member
Their should be but even most patriots have been poisoned by the propaganda and are unable to comprehend the Constitution anymore. There should be national teams of patriots who defend public lands from tyrants, defend property and animals from thieves and defend families who live off grid, homeschool their children and refuse to poison their children with toxic chemicals from having their children kidnapped. If that happened, the government would sit up and listen pretty fast.
and no before some RINO says it, i'm not advocating overthrowing the government or breaking the law. Merely reminding the government to abide by the Constitution and if they do not, they will be stopped.
right wing...your continued use of the term "patriot" seems contrary to M/W definition which states: quote: one who loves his or her country and supports its authority and interests, unquote.
your posts seem to give the impression you do not support the authority and interests of this country with comments, quote: Merely reminding the government to abide by the Constitution and if they do not, they will be stopped. unquote.
just saying...
ipse
your posts seem to give the impression you do not support the authority and interests of this country with comments, quote: Merely reminding the government to abide by the Constitution and if they do not, they will be stopped. unquote.
just saying...
ipse
Point on target.
rightwinglibertarian
Regular Member
what? Well if thats the definition of patriot then how come the Founding Fathers didnt just lay down and take tyranny? I support the government's lawful authority just not the unlawful, unconstitutional authority it stole. The very Constitution was set up to limit the government and a person who truly loves their country won't allow the government to overstep the authority the Constitution allows them.
Now on the other hand there are many things, states, cities etc are allowed to regulate. Speed limits, banning of trash burning or a bazillion other thing. Those we have a duty to obey or use the powers that be to repeal or change them. However you can't do that with violations of the Constitution because the government knows full well it's overstepped and stolen rights and it doesnt care. Therefore the only action possible is to recognise what is and is not law. Notice I cite the Constitution and state laws giving the citizen the right to defend themselves against certain crimes. I don't believe in anarchy and lawlessness.
jingo...
quote: The etymological fallacy is a genetic fallacy that holds that the present-day meaning of a word or phrase should necessarily be similar to its historical meaning. This is a linguistic misconception, and is sometimes used as a basis for linguistic prescription. An argument constitutes an etymological fallacy if it makes a claim about the present meaning of a word based exclusively on its etymology. This does not, however, show that etymology is irrelevant in any way, nor does it attempt to prove such. unquote
your MO is to fall back on the this fallacy or that fallacy nonsense, to include:
Abductive reasoning, Argument map, Argumentation theory, Argumentative dialogue, Belief bias, Boolean logic, Deductive reasoning, Defeasible reasoning, Evidence, Evidence-based policy, Fallacy, Dialectic, Formal fallacy, Inductive reasoning, Informal fallacy, Inquiry, Practical arguments, Soundness theorem, Soundness, Truth, Validity, ad nauseam...
so let's look at Urban: quote: Originally, a patriot was someone who loves their country and supports it, but won't blindly follow whatever their country's government does. These days, it is synonymous with Nationalist, which is someone who blindly follows whatever his country's government does, and lacks his own ability to think and reason for himself. unquote.
if your jingo dictionary has a different definition, you failed to provide it.
ipse
to quote Seymour "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" (1975)
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I'd like to see this confirmed by an unbiased observer.....if there is such an animal.
Because he was unarmed. As for what he was doing, we'll see...
OC for ME
Regular Member
If (when?) the feds return the lands they now control to the states there is no guarantee that the state would not be just as oppressive to the citizens. However, the first step is to get the lands returned to the state and then the citizens of that state can work to have the lands returned to the people.
Pretty damning evidence.........of something.
Still do not see that use of deadly force was necessary at that point.
OC for ME
Regular Member
How about this:
People get to buy formerly federal land from the state...no more state control over the land. State gets money from the sale, then the state could see recurring revenue from the private property due to insidious tax scheme(s) "authorized" to be inflicted on private property owners.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
+1
Even if he was reaching for a gun he was already shot by all reports and the feds set this trap up either to purposefully kill someone or to completely bungle it. They could have easily just waited until they got to their destination.
+1
I would make that zero lands.
Seen from another perspective:
http://www.examiner.com/article/fur...-of-lavoy-finicum?CID=examiner_alerts_article
http://www.examiner.com/article/fur...-of-lavoy-finicum?CID=examiner_alerts_article
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
They should have also know he was right handed.
rightwinglibertarian
Regular Member
wow, thanks for the censorship. Not even the decency to respond to it, I guess. Are we gonna have another round? Just so you know I consider myself to have been as violated as if facebook had vandalised my profile.
Don't bother me with the truth, cuz i'm enjoying drinking my kool aid to much. Delete this and show further dishonor and let yourself down or respond like a civilised patriot.
Don't bother me with the truth, cuz i'm enjoying drinking my kool aid to much. Delete this and show further dishonor and let yourself down or respond like a civilised patriot.
davidmcbeth
Banned
This was nothing like Weaver or Waco ..at least there they waited longer before the executions.
Thundar
Regular Member
Wait beebobby, let me fix it for you.....These FEDERAL clowns are engaging in exactly the opposite of what they claim to be engaging in. Many contingents of 'the people' (locals) want the land in question managed exactly the way it's being managed; it is the 'will of the people'. Yet, a small group of armed, out of state buffoons (FEDERALES) have deemed themselves the ultimate arbiters of justice on this issue, despite calls to leave from the local sheriff and residents of the nearby town
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You violate OCDO (private property) Forum Rules and then claim censorship? Really? Then add insult.
Perhaps you need to give it a rest....voluntarily. Your choice.