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One who has freedom of religion also has freedom from religion. Every religion has the right to be free from the rules of another religion. And I as an Atheist am free from the rules of all religions.
 

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As long as these morons keep their atheism to themselves they can be as free as any other US citizen when it comes to religion. It is ironic, or hypocritical that they do exactly what they are whining about, pushing their believe system on others. What a bunch of loons!
 

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As long as these morons keep their atheism to themselves they can be as free as any other US citizen when it comes to religion. It is ironic, or hypocritical that they do exactly what they are whining about, pushing their believe system on others. What a bunch of loons!

As long as religions do the same and not try to make their beliefs laws, which most certainly does push beliefs on others.
 

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As long as religions do the same and not try to make their beliefs laws, which most certainly does push beliefs on others.

That works both ways~~from what I have seen, IMO, it is those who do not believe who insist on pushing the non beliefs on others, with government force in some cases. If seeing crosses or pictures of JC bothers some people they have more serious issues than religion. I really don't care, I am not religious, though I have my believes. I am constitutional, and believe in the constitutions, I also believe people should let others live as they chose and mind their own business.
 

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As long as these morons keep their atheism to themselves they can be as free as any other US citizen when it comes to religion. It is ironic, or hypocritical that they do exactly what they are whining about, pushing their believe system on others. What a bunch of loons!

What is wrong with demanding government neutrality in the area of religion? Do you think that countries that do not respect religious neutrality (such as Moslem theocracies) are preferable?
 

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I believe that to the point of religious displays should not be payed for with tax dollars on government property. That's part of separation of church and state. If you want a display in a courtroom then build a statue of the constitution, not something particular to a persons religious affiliation.
 

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That works both ways~~from what I have seen, IMO, it is those who do not believe who insist on pushing the non beliefs on others, with government force in some cases. If seeing crosses or pictures of JC bothers some people they have more serious issues than religion. I really don't care, I am not religious, though I have my believes. I am constitutional, and believe in the constitutions, I also believe people should let others live as they chose and mind their own business.

So demanding that the government not push Christianity onto non-Christians is somehow pushing nonbelief onto everyone?

Was Switzerland's non-participation in WWII actually participation on behalf of one of the sides? :eek:
 

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That works both ways~~from what I have seen, IMO, it is those who do not believe who insist on pushing the non beliefs on others, with government force in some cases. If seeing crosses or pictures of JC bothers some people they have more serious issues than religion. I really don't care, I am not religious, though I have my believes. I am constitutional, and believe in the constitutions, I also believe people should let others live as they chose and mind their own business.

P.S. I take it that you would have no problem with Moslem symbols on government property then?
 

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P.S. I take it that you would have no problem with Moslem symbols on government property then?

You are joking right? Why in the heck should I care? I seriously get a kick out of what bothers some people. You would prefer a priest in a courtroom be naked instead of wearing his cloth?
 

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So demanding that the government not push Christianity onto non-Christians is somehow pushing nonbelief onto everyone?

Was Switzerland's non-participation in WWII actually participation on behalf of one of the sides? :eek:

Ohhh please! The non god crowd wants to push non god on people, which is stupid if a person takes them seriously what they are whining about. But then I don't take them seriously, I think the bangers of the hate religion are a joke. If hypocrites were not so funny to watch they would be just sad.
 

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I believe that to the point of religious displays should not be payed for with tax dollars on government property. That's part of separation of church and state. If you want a display in a courtroom then build a statue of the constitution, not something particular to a persons religious affiliation.
Privately funded religious emblems are routinely placed on "public" land. Also, I am waiting for atheists to sue the feds for placing all those crosses in the ground at Arlington National Cemetery.
 

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Privately funded religious emblems are routinely placed on "public" land. Also, I am waiting for atheists to sue the feds for placing all those crosses in the ground at Arlington National Cemetery.

I'm fine with that as long as any privately funded emblems are allowed to be placed on the same public land. I'm not ok with tax money being used to make any religious emblem.
 

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Privately funded religious emblems are routinely placed on "public" land. Also, I am waiting for atheists to sue the feds for placing all those crosses in the ground at Arlington National Cemetery.
What I find funny, and I do mean find funny, is how much sleep these people lose over symbols. It should be a Saturday Night Live skit...
 

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You are joking right? Why in the heck should I care? I seriously get a kick out of what bothers some people. You would prefer a priest in a courtroom be naked instead of wearing his cloth?

Government endorsement of a particular religion is a signal to non-adherents of that religion that they are second class citizens (duh).
 

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Ohhh please! The non god crowd wants to push non god on people, which is stupid if a person takes them seriously what they are whining about. But then I don't take them seriously, I think the bangers of the hate religion are a joke. If hypocrites were not so funny to watch they would be just sad.

So do you want this country to be a theocracy, similar to the sort seen in the Moslem world?
 

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Privately funded religious emblems are routinely placed on "public" land. Also, I am waiting for atheists to sue the feds for placing all those crosses in the ground at Arlington National Cemetery.

The problem is that non-Christian religious emblems are frequently excluded.
 

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What I find funny are neocons who criticize Islam while simultaneously trying to make this country a Christian mirror image of an Islamic theocracy.
 
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