An opinion on immigration

I have been silent on the matter of illegal immigration too long.

If you do not want to be separated from your children, do not bring them with you when you attempt to enter my country illegally. One - it is not fair to them. They have no say in the issue, yet will be made to suffer from your action.

Entering my country illegally makes you a criminal - you have broken our law(s). I will conclude that having done so in this instance that you will continue to act outside the law. It is not my desire to have more crimes/criminals but to have less.

Enter legally or not at all. I want good responsible people who act within the law, not the other kind.

Well said. I'm going to go one further by saying there are no such things as illegal immigrants. There are only immigrants and illegal aliens.

The people who are overly concerned about how our laws are enforced should go over there and break their laws. Then they will have something to be really concerned with.

richbuff said:

The people who are overly concerned about how our laws are enforced should go over there and break their laws. Then they will have something to be really concerned with.

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What are you trying to say? That makes no sense.

richbuff said:

The people who are overly concerned about how our laws are enforced should go over there and break their laws. Then they will have something to be really concerned with.

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Citizens don't have to even go over there~~for most people in the US get caught breaking the law, go to jail, separated from their children. Just wondering when criminals try to get out of prison because they are separated from their children..

Grapeshot said:

I have been silent on the matter of illegal immigration too long.
If you do not want to be separated from your children, do not bring them with you when you attempt to enter my country illegally. One - it is not fair to them. They have no say in the issue, yet will be made to suffer from your action.
Entering my country illegally makes you a criminal - you have broken our law(s). I will conclude that having done so in this instance that you will continue to act outside the law. It is not my desire to have more crimes/criminals but to have less.
Enter legally or not at all. I want good responsible people who act within the law, not the other kind.

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since9 said:

Well said. I'm going to go one further by saying there are no such things as illegal immigrants. There are only immigrants and illegal aliens.

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:monkey:banana::monkey:banana: Agreed !!
We need a GIF with clapping hands.

CJ4wd said:

:monkey:banana::monkey:banana: Agreed !!
We need a GIF with clapping hands.

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Google is your friend - it has over 140,000 of these.

Grapeshot said:

Google is your friend - it has over 140,000 of these.

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But, are the 140,000 open carrying?

WalkingWolf said:

Citizens don't have to even go over there~~for most people in the US get caught breaking the law, go to jail, separated from their children. Just wondering when criminals try to get out of prison because they are separated from their children..

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I think the point is if one of us were to cross over into Mexico illegally, suffice to say they would be NO WHERE NEAR as nice to us as we are to their citizens crossing into the US illegally.

357SigFan said:

I think the point is if one of us were to cross over into Mexico illegally, suffice to say they would be NO WHERE NEAR as nice to us as we are to their citizens crossing into the US illegally.

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I understand that~~but our activist courts have no power in Mexico, they do in the US. I know criminals are dumb, for the most part, but at some point a light is going to on in their head.

Grapeshot said:

Google is your friend - it has over 140,000 of these.

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There isn't a small one in the list to the right of this box on the "Reply" page. That's where we could use one.

CJ4wd said:

:monkey:banana::monkey:banana: Agreed !!
We need a GIF with clapping hands.

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Grapeshot said:

Google is your friend - it has over 140,000 of these.

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CJ4wd said:

There isn't a small one in the list to the right of this box on the "Reply" page. That's where we could use one.

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Can't make everyone happy all of the time.

Grapeshot said:

Can't make everyone happy all of the time.

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But, you can make some of them happy some of the time.

color of law said:

But, you can make some of them happy some of the time.

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Checked all 303 pages of my Annotated Moderator's Manual and do not find that.

Laws in this country are not enforced objectively. They are used very creatively as excuses to target unfavored groups (hint: that probably includes you) and often ignored or forgiven when committed by favored groups (hint: includes illegal immigrants).

Crossing the border illegally is only the first crime of many, and by many people. People in our government then illegally keep them here, make sure they live better than you do at your expense, look the other way at (or aid in?) identity theft, protect them from removal, and so on. And not just in sanctuary cities. Wherever you live, it happens. How many laws broken per alien? By and on behalf of each alien? Look around and you may be surprised.

That's huge, but still the tip of the iceberg. Other favored groups get a break too. Subjective treatment. It's the demographic or ideology and not the behavior that matters. Favored groups can do everything from litter and ignore driving laws to murder and rape, and they usually get sympathetic treatment.

Since the government itself breaks the law as well as subjectively enforcing it, we are not actually living under the rule of law. To be fair, it's not only liberals - they are the most subjective and lawless by far, but I know a lot of conservatives who can't be objective either.

I love what Trump says on immigration, but he needs to act. If I had the authority, all known illegal aliens (regardless of current status) would be on their way back across the border by any means (bus, car, train, foot) as fast as they could be rounded up. Right now ICE passes by dozens of known illegals (aka "communities") for every especially dangerous one they pursue.

Grapeshot said:

I have been silent on the matter of illegal immigration too long.

If you do not want to be separated from your children, do not bring them with you when you attempt to enter my country illegally. One - it is not fair to them. They have no say in the issue, yet will be made to suffer from your action.

Entering my country illegally makes you a criminal - you have broken our law(s). I will conclude that having done so in this instance that you will continue to act outside the law. It is not my desire to have more crimes/criminals but to have less.

Enter legally or not at all. I want good responsible people who act within the law, not the other kind.

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I suspect that many children are not related to the adult they are detained with. Photos used by the media are from O'Bummer's administration. Fake news...faux outrage...nothing but anti-Trumpers.

Catch in USA, release in Venezuela.